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In reply to the discussion: "Proof" (?) of an afterlife [View all]rug
(82,333 posts)3. There is no material evidence. We are left with Thomas.
John 20:24-29
24 Thomas, called Didymus, one of the Twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 So the other disciples said to him, We have seen the Lord. But he said to them, Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands and put my finger into the nailmarks and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 Now a week later his disciples were again inside and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and stood in their midst and said, Peace be with you.
27 Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here and see my hands, and bring your hand and put it into my side, and do not be unbelieving, but believe.
28 Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God!
29 Jesus said to him, Have you come to believe because you have seen me?r Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed.
24 Thomas, called Didymus, one of the Twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 So the other disciples said to him, We have seen the Lord. But he said to them, Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands and put my finger into the nailmarks and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 Now a week later his disciples were again inside and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and stood in their midst and said, Peace be with you.
27 Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here and see my hands, and bring your hand and put it into my side, and do not be unbelieving, but believe.
28 Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God!
29 Jesus said to him, Have you come to believe because you have seen me?r Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed.
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Thanks for the reply. I agree that is possible, but if it is inevitable we will return, is it also
Doodley
Oct 2016
#14
And the chances of getting the correct number on all 100 roles of dice would be far greater
cpwm17
Oct 2016
#57
You keep trying to put the burden of proof on others for disproving your reincarnation theory
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#91
Much as I'd like to live on forever after I die, writing a book just seems like too much work.
stone space
Oct 2016
#12
It is only unverifiable if we cannot confirm that we are not already in an afterlife.
Doodley
Oct 2016
#15
Even then it's still unverifiable because you can't confirm the after-afterlife
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#16
No you can't, but can you confirm that our existence now is life or the afterlife?
Doodley
Oct 2016
#34
You haven't made any logical arguments against the possibility of conscious minds returning.
cpwm17
Oct 2016
#61
I feel no obligation to disprove something that was never proven to begin with. YMMV.
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#63
And yet you proceed to compare it to other processes in nature as if it were a thing
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#69
And yet you are claiming your "conscious-self" not only can but has transcended your physical being
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#74
I have no evidence that my conscious-self is attach to any particular atoms in my body
cpwm17
Oct 2016
#75
You acknowledge "conscious-self" isn't a thing, yet base your premise on its transposition
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#78
I'm not claiming any position is the "default", which is where you are confused
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#94
What is consciousness? We can build computers but know very little about the human
Doodley
Oct 2016
#85
Music isn't a "thing." It is neither only soundwaves or perception. Can it be transposed? Yes.
Doodley
Oct 2016
#84
You are the one who made the claim. I am just asking you can back-up your claim.
Doodley
Oct 2016
#60
My "claim" was that any mention of an afterlife is conveniently unverifiable
Major Nikon
Oct 2016
#62
You wouldn't anymore than you'd recognize you are alive. Similarly, there is a theory that
Doodley
Oct 2016
#35
my proof is in the first part............. I just suggested The Shack for your enjoyment
Angry Dragon
Oct 2016
#40
Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another.
still_one
Oct 2016
#30