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Bretton Garcia

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41. If it WAS, then: are all beliefs the same, or of equal status?

Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:52 PM

Mar 2017

Is belief in God the same as 1) belief in the Easter Bunny? 2) Belief in gravity? 3) Belief that the car to the right of you is real?

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Is Atheism a Belief? [View all] trotsky Mar 2017 OP

I've always found this topic fertile ground for pedantry and equivocation. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2017 #1

It's biodegradable! nolabels Mar 2017 #2

Short answer Lordquinton Mar 2017 #3

this dude atheists. n/t trotsky Mar 2017 #4

Used to be able to ............. Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #5

yes ........... atheists believe there is no god ............. that is a belief Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #6

That is not a 'belief'. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #7

and atheist and agnostic are NOT the same Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #8

No one suggested they were, until you protested about it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #9

When is an unprovable belief not a belief? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #13

First I would have to invest in, or hold, the unprovable belief. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #14

I believe that there is a Creator. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #17

there is no evidence of a Creator edhopper Mar 2017 #21

Fortunately that hill isn't mine to defend. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #25

I have seen no evidence for a creator... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #48

How exactly is a lack of belief a belief? How is nothing something? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #49

As to your examples: guillaumeb Mar 2017 #56

Nice try but I want to know if it's a belief to NOT believe the earth is flat. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #57

Belief is not necessary for something that is provable. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #58

Can you prove the Easter Bunny doesn't exist? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #59

I have faith that a Creator exists, thus I believe in the Creator. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #60

That doesn't answer my question. Why is lack of belief in your god special? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #61

My belief is special to me. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #62

That's nice. Can you answer the question? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #63

I have never met anyone who claimed to have no beliefs. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #68

You have 'met' plenty in this forum who told you they have no belief in gods. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #72

"Met" in a literal sense. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #74

So because you haven't 'met' us in meat space we don't get to define our own atheism? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #78

If you reads the post that I referenced, a current post, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #80

You linked to the op. Which is odd because I don't see where it includes a different definition. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #82

I am defining atheism for myself, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #83

You are defining it for others. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #85

You are attempting to define what I am saying. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #86

No I'm actually being repeating your claim that atheism is a belief. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #88

I stated, as my position, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #90

What does that statement even mean? What is your source for that claim? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #93

My claim is my opinion. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #95

Your opinion seems to be a belief. You're claiming every opinion is a belief. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #99

But my lack of belief in your god Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #65

And my response, as always, is that you do believe. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #69

So you have a belief in Santa Claus? Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #70

My beliefs in anything specific do not matter. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #71

They absolutely do matter. What is your belief that Santa doesn't exist called? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #73

I believe that Santa Claus does not exist. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #75

So what do you call your belief? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #79

I simply call it my belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #81

So you think belief in climate change is the same as belief in mythological creatures? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #84

Belief is something that is unproven. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #87

Gods are unprovable, climate change is settled science, just like evolution and gravity. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #89

Evolution is a theory. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #91

Wow. Thanks for proving my point. That was easy. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #92

I must disagree. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #94

That's your opinion. I'll defer to scientists if you don't mind. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #97

I stand corrected on evolution. Thank you. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #98

but human caused climate change can be proven edhopper Mar 2017 #100

Is the evidence unequivocal that human caused warming is the cause of climate guillaumeb Mar 2017 #101

yes, edhopper Mar 2017 #102

I have plenty of beliefs Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #103

Are all of your beliefs provable? eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #104

Of course not Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #105

Ulysses? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #107

I do not believe there is no God edhopper Mar 2017 #15

Do you believe in evolution? Doodley Mar 2017 #27

no edhopper Mar 2017 #33

No it isn't... it's a LACK of a belief... bobalew Mar 2017 #36

Depends on the type of atheist you are describing. LostOne4Ever Mar 2017 #39

so you are an atheist edhopper Mar 2017 #40

You got no argument from me :). Nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2017 #44

No, it's an absence of belief Warpy Mar 2017 #54

I believe in my table and chairs... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #10

I've been on DU 12 years, and this group is still talking about the same thing. kwassa Mar 2017 #11

Maybe if people would stop saying atheism is a belief Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #42

It was nice of him to notice and chime in though. trotsky Mar 2017 #109

Ain't that the truth! hrmjustin Mar 2017 #45

If it cannot be proven, it is a belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #12

one does not have to disprove edhopper Mar 2017 #16

Believing that there is no God IS a belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #18

you just want a special category edhopper Mar 2017 #19

You believe that there is/are no God/Gods. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #20

I have plenty of evidnce that edhopper Mar 2017 #22

Evidence, or feeling? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #55

evidence edhopper Mar 2017 #64

I eagerly await the forthcoming presentation of such evidence. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #67

You've already seen it. trotsky Mar 2017 #110

It is not belief edhopper Mar 2017 #23

If seeing is believing, then it's not a belief. dchill Mar 2017 #28

No, once again, very slowly Warpy Mar 2017 #77

BS! bobalew Mar 2017 #37

Atheism does not require one The Sand Reckoner Mar 2017 #106

By your logic everything is a belief Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #29

You answered theism Lordquinton Mar 2017 #24

If it WAS, then: are all beliefs the same, or of equal status? Bretton Garcia Mar 2017 #41

Didn't read the article, did you? beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #51

It is a belief in something other than a God or Gods, so yes. Doodley Mar 2017 #26

It's a belief in nothing. Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #31

It's not a belief in nothing... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #66

What else edhopper Mar 2017 #34

Is science? nt Laffy Kat Mar 2017 #30

Atheism is truth. Lunabell Mar 2017 #32

Long ago, I thought I was agnostic JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #35

You put it correctly edhopper Mar 2017 #38

It's amazing that we have to keep fighting for the right to define ourselves. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #43

Hello Cthulu!.... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #46

Hello my friend! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #47

I hope all is well with you! hrmjustin Mar 2017 #50

Hello hrmjustin. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #52

We are well and I hope it continues. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #53

Of course it is, they are as vehement as religious zealots Motley13 Mar 2017 #76

Only if Eko Mar 2017 #96

Of course not. Iggo Mar 2017 #108