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Response to edhopper (Reply #64)

Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:31 PM

67. All of those measures are the effects of the wind...

The point stands...can you see the wind? I have not...I've experienced it and seen and experienced its force first hand many times, but I've never actually seen the wind.

As for evidence of God's effect in the universe? Hell if I know! I could get very scientific and talk about the basics of DNA and how the basic functions of DNA seem carefully orchestrated and extremely similar from species to species. I could sell you a line of crap that evolution is clearly the sign of a creator molding and shaping his creation. Yet that would all fall flat because I don't know that I personally have that faith, and I alluded to as much in my post! I don't know...neither does anyone else. I, personally, find solace in the faith of my upbringing because it validates me as a human being. I, likewise, find strength and peace through the study of martial arts and the beliefs that spawned them. For me, I've tried my best to live my life as a sponge, to soak up as much of the humanity around me at any given time and find meaning through that. To my priest, I'm sure that probably makes me a shitty Catholic...to the people I encounter every day, if they knew my own spiritual thoughts, to quote Dylan: "if my thought dreams could be seen, they'd prolly put my head in a guillotine". That's just who I am, maybe that makes me a humanist, I don't know. But like I said, I've seen enough of the world to question whether there is an overarching creator. I've seen children ripped apart by war in the most grisly fashion imaginable with no rhyme or reason for their misery. So, don't mistake my statement for blind allegiance to religion. I meant what I said when I described myself. I, personally, don't have an issue with enriching my spirituality through many avenues, in an attempt to make myself into a better person, while at the same time questioning whether there is in fact a God at all! At the same time, I would never try to push my personal beliefs and issuses with religion on anyone else, because religion and spirituality is, at its core, a deeply personal thing.

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