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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts) Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:00 PM Oct 2017

Good news: 'This movement is evil: Religious leaders denounce White Lives Matter rallies [View all]

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Religious leaders across Tennessee are denouncing white supremacy ahead of White Lives Matter protests in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville.....

Scores of clergy have signed their names to statements opposing the white nationalist groups’ values.

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Good news: 'This movement is evil: Religious leaders denounce White Lives Matter rallies [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2017 OP

I thought you said they were supposed to be tolerated in this country. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #1

Do you really not understand that you are talking about 2 different topics? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #2

The confusion comes from you, g. trotsky Oct 2017 #5

No, the apparent confusion seems to be limited to a very few in this group. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #9

So in this instance you are keenly aware of the nuances Lordquinton Oct 2017 #16

LOL!!! n/t trotsky Oct 2017 #21

And the choir is in near perfect harmony. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #25

Um, so do you understand that putting "eom" on the end of your subject line... trotsky Oct 2017 #26

I do, but I do make mistakes. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #28

Sure. trotsky Oct 2017 #29

So can I expect an apology for the few times you have accused me guillaumeb Oct 2017 #31

I am sorry that I ever accused you of claiming to define Christianity. trotsky Oct 2017 #35

I am amazed. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #36

As I figured. trotsky Oct 2017 #37

I admitted that I cannot remember which of the things that I said guillaumeb Oct 2017 #38

OK, I'll naively play along. trotsky Oct 2017 #39

I should have remembered that one. And it was my error. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #40

And look! YOU APOLOGIZED AND YOU'RE STILL ALIVE! trotsky Oct 2017 #41

The end of theism is a metaphorical description of the numerous posts guillaumeb Oct 2017 #52

As long as we're on the topic Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #68

"a metaphorical description" trotsky Nov 2017 #71

While you're at it... trotsky Oct 2017 #44

I might ask why your posts are not entered into your journal? But I do not care. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #53

I don't use the journal feature, so I fail to see why that matters. trotsky Nov 2017 #70

An interesting attack you made, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #79

The real reason for asking for links? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #75

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Nov 2017 #82

Accusing me of being dishonest? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #83

You certainly have the privilege of using the self-delete function. Mariana Nov 2017 #84

It is an attempt to frame by claiming that using the function is an attempt to hide something. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #85

Not a penalty. nt. Mariana Nov 2017 #86

Of course not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #88

No, they aren't. Mariana Nov 2017 #89

No? Read this: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #90

Lolololololololololo Lordquinton Nov 2017 #92

No Lordquinton Oct 2017 #48

Not true at all. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #54

That's not a definition. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #65

No, you have defined atheism for others Lordquinton Oct 2017 #67

Were you not one who also claimed that I define Christianity for others? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #56

Did I stutter? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #66

So you persist in this statement. Which misdefines my own expressed beliefs. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #77

No misidentification here Lordquinton Nov 2017 #91

I said that I was not a literalist. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #94

Nice try Lordquinton Nov 2017 #104

Okay. I concede that you have convinced yourself. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #109

So everyone who has called you out on this Lordquinton Nov 2017 #111

"Everyone" in your context is a handful. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #113

That is a way to describe the people reading this group Lordquinton Nov 2017 #122

A few of the people. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #124

So what? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #127

Side note: this is an attempt at reframing Lordquinton Nov 2017 #125

Shenanigans. 😀 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #143

Literalists can and do gum up the works. IMO. EOMMM. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #106

The pope gums up the works? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #112

I'm befuddled. Which doesn't take much.😤 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #115

The pope is a biblical literalist Lordquinton Nov 2017 #123

I'm sorry. Say that again? S-l-o-w-l-y, please. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #138

I don't know how planer I can say it Lordquinton Nov 2017 #151

Thee pope. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #155

I can't speak fully to your points Lordquinton Nov 2017 #161

You guys appreciate nuance? sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #168

This is interesting, but if you do not wish to respond, I understand. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #139

So you have nothing? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #47

No, the reframing is obvious here. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #87

Like how you reframed that one question Lordquinton Nov 2017 #93

Except that I did not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #95

Still maintaining that story? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #105

Sure, g. trotsky Oct 2017 #20

I'm not confused at all. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #14

You still sound confused. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #32

I'm not the one confused. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #45

Reminds me of a quote from a famous sailor. trotsky Oct 2017 #46

Define many people? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #55

Well, since this is a discussion here Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #74

I was taking issue with your initial wording. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #81

Scores of clergy across Tennessee. Mariana Oct 2017 #3

True story Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #24

Yeah, great. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #4

GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! n/t trotsky Oct 2017 #6

... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #7

What an amazing coincidence. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #8

Thats Professor Farnsworth of Futurama and his catchphrase Rob H. Oct 2017 #17

When everyone says you're wrong for exactly the same reason... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #18

Do not conflate a tiny group of frequent posters guillaumeb Oct 2017 #27

So when I say "everyone"... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #42

So when you write "everyone", guillaumeb Oct 2017 #59

This is the part where I say "I can only define it for myself", right? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #69

Use his weapons to your advantage. trotsky Nov 2017 #72

Well said. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #78

Gil, if your posts are being misunderstood all the time Mariana Oct 2017 #50

Look at my many posts in other areas, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #60

You take very generic position marylandblue Nov 2017 #96

An interesting analysis. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #97

Maybe banal or trivial is a better description than generic marylandblue Nov 2017 #100

I find such questions as "should we tolerate Nazis" to be pointless. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #101

There is a long history of argument and misunderstanding among you and other posters marylandblue Nov 2017 #103

A good observation. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #108

Allow me to add this to my response: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #102

Wow, so now it's an Internet conspiracy against you? trotsky Oct 2017 #22

And the choir is in near perfect harmony. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #10

Okay, here is a different voice. marylandblue Oct 2017 #11

How's that new catch phrase going? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #15

Writing a good catch phrase can be hard. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #19

Bad news: Even more praised it. MineralMan Oct 2017 #12

But it was scores of them, MineralMan. Mariana Oct 2017 #13

How many are there? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #33

It's enough to make SCORES statistically insignificant. Mariana Oct 2017 #49

So do you feel we should reject those with whom we agree? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #57

Build alliances with scores of religious leaders? Mariana Oct 2017 #61

We can build bridges, or build walls. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #62

Frankly, I'm not interested in building bridges Mariana Oct 2017 #63

Then we clearly disagree on tactics. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #64

Better ways to talk a LOT of these white people down off the ledge rather than calling them evil. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #23

Feel free to discuss the ways you do so. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #34

It's simple. You ask them if they would respond to a Breast Cancer fundraising/awareness campaign AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #43

I agree. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #51

Then why did you categorize this as "good news"? trotsky Nov 2017 #73

Denunciation of intolerance is good news. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #80

So denouncing those people's behavior as evil is good news. Mariana Nov 2017 #98

Denouncing racism and white supremacy IS good news in my opinion. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #99

guillaubeb saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #30

Denouncing white nationalists is not a good act? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #58

Hiya. You just wrote something that may go over sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #107

An excellent suggestion. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #110

Wise sage. (Heheh.) sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #114

Do you think this bit is working? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #116

Please clarify what 'bit'. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #117

I don't even know why I'm on here. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #118

What. The bit about the wise sage or my take on sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #119

They spend a lot of time talking past each other marylandblue Nov 2017 #120

IF you call it a positive act, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #121

No marylandblue Nov 2017 #126

An arbitrary and personal definition. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #128

Don't you believe that all definitions are arbitrary and personal? marylandblue Nov 2017 #130

When we are talking of labels, yes, they can be. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #131

Then you shouldn't have a problem if someone marylandblue Nov 2017 #132

Not even the same topic. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #133

I don't think you have sympathy for Nazis marylandblue Nov 2017 #134

But that is a "logical leap" that requires facts in evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #135

I don't need facts in evidence if I can define my own terms EOM marylandblue Nov 2017 #136

True, but the debate arises when one applies those self-defined terms guillaumeb Nov 2017 #137

No there is no debate marylandblue Nov 2017 #141

Facts in evidence: Lordquinton Nov 2017 #152

And if you have no facts, is it permissible to construct them? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #162

I can make my own personal definition of facts and construction marylandblue Nov 2017 #163

This thread destroyed that claim Lordquinton Nov 2017 #164

I think I see what you mean. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #140

Yup. marylandblue Nov 2017 #142

Thing is, a poster says something and they get jumped on, pulled apart and sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #145

A lot of people on this site are New Atheists marylandblue Nov 2017 #149

Okay. I see how some who have embraced atheism more recently than not sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #153

Some posters get "jumped on" a lot more than others. Mariana Nov 2017 #160

And if a member accuses another of one thing, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #165

... Mariana Nov 2017 #166

You ignored my response, and my questions. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #170

Okay, those offenses would be a bummer. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #167

Would I be thrilled to see one come into the fold? Mariana Nov 2017 #144

You be thrilled for your fold and I be happy happy joy for mine. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #146

I was quoting you. Sorry I didn't use the correct punctuation. Mariana Nov 2017 #147

Can we pick this up l8r? Gotta cook supper for dogga and dogga's pop. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #148

Sure, take your time. nt. Mariana Nov 2017 #150

Not as young as I used to be. In body, not mind/spirit. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #154

You said, Mariana Nov 2017 #156

The Church. The Church Community of Communicants. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #157

That's not to say you may also have a 'fold' wherein sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #158

Interestingly enough, I wonder the same thing at times when you post. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #129

I think I'm pretty straightforward with my style. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #159

Did y'all call me homely? sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #169

A nice response. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #171

At times, I do speaketh truth. 😉 😇/😈 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #172

If you grew up stateside, way back if someone said, "I resemble that!", it was a play on words, sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #173

I actually did not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #174

There's just something about you I do sense and like. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #175

And peace to you and yours. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #176

Appreciative. Yes, peace be 'to all' who seek, ask, and respond concerning sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #177