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Alexa, how out of touch with the reality of christmas is this op? Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #1
(Bonk!) AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #8
One of your better replies. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #47
Useless, long and everlasting THEOLOGICAL DEBATE in 3 2 1.... Canoe52 Dec 2017 #67
Oh, that train left the station a long time ago. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #70
None. shenmue Dec 2017 #77
Yes there is. Mariana Dec 2017 #79
The Exodus story and the Christmas story have this in common: DavidDvorkin Dec 2017 #2
Bzzzt. Nice try. shenmue Dec 2017 #76
We've been told over and over again Mariana Dec 2017 #80
Can you cite historical evidence for either one? DavidDvorkin Dec 2017 #81
Well, that's how it should have happened. Sadly, that is not what did happen. MineralMan Dec 2017 #3
The Beatles changed the world! Cartoonist Dec 2017 #4
Yes, and changed it for the better. dchill Dec 2017 #78
Depending on who you were, Christianity benefited you or MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
I'm going for Constantine customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #6
Exodus is a ridiculous hoax. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #7
Your devout Biblical Literalism demonstrates... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #9
Yallerdawg, do you believe any story in the Bible is literally true? Mariana Dec 2017 #10
I'm here in support of tolerance and inclusion. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #11
To two parties, the story is literally real, and it's getting people killed all the time. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #13
Some of us choose to see the good in people. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #14
Some of us, up is up, down is down. Left is left, right is right. Etc. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #15
There's a message in "Moby Dick," too, MineralMan Dec 2017 #20
"Moby Dick" isn't a religious text. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #22
So? It's a story. It's a metaphor. MineralMan Dec 2017 #37
Maybe one day... Mariana Dec 2017 #38
Most of them began as oral tradition. MineralMan Dec 2017 #42
The 'message' is couched as literal inerrant bilbical truth by evangelicals and others in the US. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #12
Still hung up on literalism. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #16
Yes. Yes it is a horror story. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #17
"For some this is a horror story" Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #19
Can you all get it straight? yallerdawg Dec 2017 #21
You claimed that we should look at the message. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #25
People can discuss a fictional character in a story. Mariana Dec 2017 #40
Both are "needed" by the literalist strain of non-theism. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #49
Is a message delivered in a false story valid? MineralMan Dec 2017 #24
Simply a message of promised deliverance in response to faith. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #27
See my second post below, regarding Jericho. MineralMan Dec 2017 #29
which message of exodus exactly? Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #18
Symbolism and metaphor is bullshit. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #23
So, then, let's have a look at Jericho and its fate, MineralMan Dec 2017 #26
Literalism again. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #31
Forget literalism. Let's say that never happened. Still, MineralMan Dec 2017 #32
I just don't follow. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #34
You're asking the right questions, but you aren't thinking about the answers. MineralMan Dec 2017 #35
We're talking about faith here. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #36
Faith in what? What are we supposed to have faith in? MineralMan Dec 2017 #39
You're also stuck in the past. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #41
"religion" - "has opened its doors to the LGBTQ community" well, about that... Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #43
Stuck in the past. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #44
Please show the data for that. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #45
Mine is anecdotal. Just looking through "Religion" OP's and comments. ; ) yallerdawg Dec 2017 #46
The RCC still exerts influence worldwide to prevent legal recognition of same sex marraige. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #66
UU's are 0.0114285714% of the world's population and the religion is only 60 years old. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #64
Pagans. Deists. Agnostic Theists. Hindus. Jainism. Church of Satan. Take your pick, I got more. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #62
How do you feel about Moses himself being denied faith? AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #60
I like how you just set arbitrary bookends to prevent analysis of the whole story, rather focusing o AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #55
Genesis to Revelation? yallerdawg Dec 2017 #68
Different books entirely. Which is fine. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #69
Symbolism and metaphor are fine, but hiding from defending the stories Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #28
Speaking of cruel barbarity, god actually MADE the Pharoh evil, causing the death of children. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #30
The message is: "Our God is the Most Powerful God. Defy our God and Die!" MineralMan Dec 2017 #33
If it's not your god, you're evil by definition Mariana Dec 2017 #73
From the well known group of non-theistic literalists. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #48
What possesses them to have such an Anti-Christian viewpoint... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #50
I have read the claim that they are "forced" to it by theistic intolerance. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #51
Does it require a god that engineers obstacles and pain/death/misery for bystanders on the way? AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #53
I would suggest reading it and deciding for yourself. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #57
Your excuse wears thin. There is a difference between me mockingly pointing out how long it takes AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #58
I identify vicious torture porn, as vicious torture porn. Clearly the problem is with me. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #52
A suggestion: guillaumeb Dec 2017 #54
Already read it. It's nonsense. Its not "corrosive patina" to observe that god is a character within AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #56
A literalist? I understand. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #59
Except I, and others, are willing to discuss the metaphorical/allegorical meanings of the story. AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #61
If you are attacking the events as if they literally happened, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #63
Including that the Pharaoh was controlled by god so that he could not relent is not AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #65
Man, you should never visit any fan fiction site Lordquinton Dec 2017 #71
I never have. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #72
The discussion actually takes place Lordquinton Dec 2017 #74
My degrees were awarded in 1974. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #75
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