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sprinkleeninow

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87. In all honesty, I don't know this thread of which you speak.

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:56 PM

Feb 2018

I can only answer for my own short-comings and 'passions' (virtue adverse).

Following the encouragment by first having received the gift of salvation, we aren't left vulnerable and in 'open season'. We are afforded the saving grace of repentance.

In Greek, 'Metanoia', 'turning from', the conscious and voluntary repelling of any falling short that our inner witness 'suggests' against.

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Is my faith the correct faith? Are other faiths wrong? [View all] guillaumeb Feb 2018 OP

I would say that makes you an atypical Christian. 3catwoman3 Feb 2018 #1

I understand and identify with your experiences. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #3

I am also a Unitarian-Universalist. I agree with you and love your post. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #32

So would you say that Muslims who wish to kill or convert non-Muslims marylandblue Feb 2018 #2

They are. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #4

But there's nothing really wrong with it, right? marylandblue Feb 2018 #6

Ask them. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #16

I am pretty sure they would kill a heathen like me marylandblue Feb 2018 #17

I am a Christian. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #18

I am not interested in their opinion marylandblue Feb 2018 #29

Why are you uninterested in their opinion about their faith? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #33

They are not on DU marylandblue Feb 2018 #43

Sorry for the apparent confusion. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #48

Sorry, I meant they are not on the DU Religion Group marylandblue Feb 2018 #58

I am a pacifist, which contains the answer. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #81

It's fine you oppose it, but you can't say that God opposes it marylandblue Feb 2018 #90

I cannot speak for the Creator. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #91

in the context of modern society marylandblue Feb 2018 #93

I will answer. Anyone, Muslim or whatever, who has convinced him- or herself Sophia4 Feb 2018 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #47

Well that's a good answer marylandblue Feb 2018 #62

Convenience.They're strongly/gravely deceived. Doing the evil one's sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #108

Interesting. trotsky Feb 2018 #71

The problem with faith TlalocW Feb 2018 #5

The problem is that intolerance and violence are human characteristics. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #23

Nothing in TlalocW's post referred to intolerance or violence marylandblue Feb 2018 #75

I explained the connection. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #83

According to my mother if you weren't a member of the Church of Christ you are doc03 Feb 2018 #7

If we are all going to hell, perhaps hell is heaven. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #24

'Hell' is a state of being, not a physical/geographical place/location like your residential address sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #39

Many Christians do not agree. Mariana Feb 2018 #57

That right there.... sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #67

Hell as a place is a Catholic tradition marylandblue Feb 2018 #77

I hold that this hell is a state of the soul that is separated or will be from God, but that it is sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #89

No, but TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #50

Hoo boy. My housekeeper is running late. (Me!🤣) sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #109

I want to thank you for answering questions about your religion Mariana Feb 2018 #112

I am appreciative of your words. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #113

I would say most if not all Christian churches edhopper Feb 2018 #8

Faith is a personal thing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #25

Not asking about you. edhopper Feb 2018 #40

I am presenting the huge range of faith. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #41

And yet edhopper Feb 2018 #44

I am talking here about the terms correct or incorrect as they apply to faith. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #49

Well then edhopper Feb 2018 #59

Faith is common to most of the world. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #82

So to you faith is faith edhopper Feb 2018 #85

Faith is basically defined as belief in the unprovable. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #86

And those who have faith in things edhopper Feb 2018 #88

Most religions believe quite sincerely that theirs is the only true belief. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #9

My belief system is the only way Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #10

As long as you follow it, it is the only way. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #26

I mean for everyone Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #52

Yawn. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #11

"I would say that they too are following a different path. Not better, not worse. Just different." trotsky Feb 2018 #12

Giving a shout out from 'someone's' anonymous fan club! 😤 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #45

guillaumeb wrote: "Are thinking skills generally absent among theists?" trotsky Feb 2018 #54

Lying for the Lord. Mariana Feb 2018 #60

Besides, when you have a large anonymous fan club that you're performing for, trotsky Feb 2018 #66

Okay. Clumsy apologetics will get one into a sticky wicket. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #63

guillaumeb's "spirit" thinks that deliberately spreading falsehoods is a good thing. trotsky Feb 2018 #65

Oh my DOG. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #68

Do you think dishonesty is a good trait for Christians, or not? trotsky Feb 2018 #69

I fall short hourly, daily, monthly, yearly, decade-ly. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #73

This isn't about making mistakes. trotsky Feb 2018 #76

In all honesty, I don't know this thread of which you speak. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #87

It's right here: trotsky Feb 2018 #96

Mmm. That thread. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #97

Nope, that's wrong. trotsky Feb 2018 #98

Dumping on theists who are an audience to apologetics. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #99

Here's your answer: trotsky Feb 2018 #101

See how these internets can distort. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #104

No, your friend is the source of the distortion. trotsky Feb 2018 #106

I'm quite fond of monsieur. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #110

And you have chosen dishonesty over honesty. trotsky Feb 2018 #116

Ooooh. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #125

"Honest discussion"? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #114

Yes. trotsky Feb 2018 #117

More interesting. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #120

Drop the fucking bullshit and try it, gil. trotsky Feb 2018 #123

Do not equate "everyone" with you. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #131

You don't get to tell me what to do. trotsky Feb 2018 #142

Still fighting those strawpeople I see. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #146

I can't afford to keep up with these, you know. trotsky Feb 2018 #149

All these PO'd people. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #141

Well, that's what that post seemed to project saying. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #105

Why don't you try engaging in discourse with the person who wrote the words? trotsky Feb 2018 #107

Jumpin' Jehosaphat! Any, any 'thing' I say will be wrong. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #111

Not true. trotsky Feb 2018 #119

Oh, please. You will call my reading comprehension skills sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #126

Despite the person himself clarifying what he wrote, trotsky Feb 2018 #128

Oy veh. Prune Hamantaschen! sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #130

Why do you support guillaimeb? marylandblue Feb 2018 #134

I wouldn't elevate myself to that position. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #136

You don't need to be a theologian marylandblue Feb 2018 #138

Okay. Will do.🤗 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #140

Agreed. I am certainly no theologian. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #151

You've put up your own obstacles, so stop marylandblue Feb 2018 #166

Right. Blame theists for reacting to constant attacks on other theists. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #170

There is way to defend yourself marylandblue Feb 2018 #174

Why the constant attacks in the first place? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #176

It's a topic full of controversy and has been for thousands of years marylandblue Feb 2018 #181

I agree. But if someone posts something positive, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #184

Oh, P.S. Condemning/condemnation is not in my repetoire sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #127

I'm done with you now. trotsky Feb 2018 #129

No one has asked you to condemn a brother in the faith Mariana Feb 2018 #133

It is my understanding that person used 'that' wording. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #135

Hi, sprink. The word 'butt' is being used now possibly bc sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #139

Trotsky, Trotsky, that's completely unreasonable! Mariana Feb 2018 #115

Ah yes, my bad, sorry. trotsky Feb 2018 #118

I asked numerous times. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #121

I wasn't talking to you. trotsky Feb 2018 #122

Self-silence at your request? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #132

Your comments are indeed revealing. trotsky Feb 2018 #143

So you want to shut down any real debate here and insist on harmony among posters? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #147

Oh so now "real debate" means misquoting someone else out of context? trotsky Feb 2018 #150

Like when you accused me on multiple occasions of defining Christianity for everyone guillaumeb Feb 2018 #152

Yes gil, sure, your false accusation against me.... trotsky Feb 2018 #154

So now you deny that you did make that accusation? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #155

Yes I do. trotsky Feb 2018 #156

Here is another example of your reframing: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #157

You failed to link to a post proving your accusation. trotsky Feb 2018 #158

You might be sorry that you asked for proof, but here it is: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #159

That was my attempt to apologize for something I didn't think I did. trotsky Feb 2018 #160

Try again. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #161

Try WHAT? trotsky Feb 2018 #162

You are amazing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #163

No, I already admitted that I *tried* apologizing to you. trotsky Feb 2018 #164

Amazing indeed. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #167

What this explains is your total inability to forgive. trotsky Feb 2018 #168

What this shows is your inability or unwillingness to admit what you are doing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #172

I apologized, gil. trotsky Feb 2018 #175

Now you are attempting to reframe your apology, which was guillaumeb Feb 2018 #178

I see that you are not willing to apologize to those you hurt. You will go on hurting. trotsky Feb 2018 #179

I did say resourceful. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #183

What do I need to do to help you get past this? trotsky Feb 2018 #185

3 accusations in a row. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #187

I apologize again. trotsky Feb 2018 #188

Sigh. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #189

I am sorry I angered you then. trotsky Feb 2018 #191

When we engage in dialogue, what was said in the past is also a part of what is currently guillaumeb Feb 2018 #192

Only if you can link to it, guillaumeb MineralMan Feb 2018 #193

I was speaking to another, and also speaking about PMs. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #195

My claim is supported by your posts here, and the number of people who have taken you to task. trotsky Feb 2018 #194

More framing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #196

Yeah, "revealing." trotsky Feb 2018 #124

As I understood it from his clarifications marylandblue Feb 2018 #137

The sentence could have been written to make that point. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #148

It was written the way it was written marylandblue Feb 2018 #165

So it was an error, or a misstatement. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #169

My point is to remove the beam in your own eye marylandblue Feb 2018 #171

Avoidance of what I wrote. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #173

I am not avoiding what you wrote marylandblue Feb 2018 #177

I am not outraged. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #180

You usually sound outraged, not sad marylandblue Feb 2018 #182

I will search for the sad font. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #186

So, if I read you correctly, all deities are simply manifestations of one? MineralMan Feb 2018 #13

Gil's flavor of Christianity is rather a novel and unusual one. Mariana Feb 2018 #15

After all this time, I still do not have any idea what guillaumeb believes. MineralMan Feb 2018 #19

He has posted a few specifics from time to time. Mariana Feb 2018 #21

Thank you TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #53

That appears to be his intention. nt. Mariana Feb 2018 #94

It's intentional, of course. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #100

I suppose. MineralMan Feb 2018 #102

Not my experience with theists marylandblue Feb 2018 #144

A distinction is probably in order here, I would guess. trotsky Feb 2018 #145

Precisely Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #153

In this case, there is the added complication Mariana Feb 2018 #190

If you are confused, I understand. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #28

No, I am not confused at all. MineralMan Feb 2018 #35

Does your faith tell you edhopper Feb 2018 #14

You keep asking that question. The answer, I think, is either MineralMan Feb 2018 #20

The message to do to others as you would have them do to you, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #22

Those are quite generic messages, MineralMan Feb 2018 #27

Some of us are looking for the Creator. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #30

I'm not looking for any such thing. MineralMan Feb 2018 #34

You fall into one of the two categories. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #37

You provided three categories. MineralMan Feb 2018 #38

"Faith" saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #31

Logic and science are my friends. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #36

I stopped posting in this group for the most part. HopeAgain Feb 2018 #46

Recommended guillaumeb Feb 2018 #51

"...some completely co-opt a human desire for spirituality by twisting it into something very..ugly" trotsky Feb 2018 #55

Sure, if their faith negatively affects others HopeAgain Feb 2018 #61

Hi there! I ran outta DU hearts to gift, but here's one for you! 💝 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #64

Thank you! HopeAgain Feb 2018 #92

You are not the only one like that marylandblue Feb 2018 #80

I believe that there are more paths than one..... spicysista Feb 2018 #56

In Eastern Orthodoxy: "We know where the Church is, but we do not know where it is not." sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #70

Beautiful! spicysista Feb 2018 #72

Well, I simply 'relished' the 'fragrance' of your post! 😍 Lovely, like aroma therapy! sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #74

Thank you. spicysista Feb 2018 #79

I think god does a facepalm every time someone says churches and faiths demigoddess Feb 2018 #78

A church is not needed. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #84

The first peoples gathering in the Name of the Risen Christ sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #95

True, it is not the shell, but what is inside. eom guillaumeb Feb 2018 #103