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yallerdawg

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Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:41 PM Feb 2018

Facts, Truth and Meaning [View all]

Excerpt from: Apologetics and the Christian Imagination: An Interview with Holly Ordway


Holly Ordway is Professor of English and faculty in the M.A. in Apologetics at Houston Baptist University; she holds a PhD in English from the University of Massachusetts Amherst. She is the author of Not God’s Type: An Atheist Academic Lays Down Her Arms and Apologetics and the Christian Imagination: An Integrated Approach to Defending the Faith.

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In my book, I’m making an argument for the recovery of a broader, richer understanding of the imagination. Reason and imagination are paired faculties: we need both in order to think about anything. In order to make reasoned judgments, such as whether something is true or false, we first have to have something meaningful to think about, and that’s where the imagination comes in: it creates meaning.

Thus, at its heart, an apologetics approach that is imaginative is one that is focused on the creation of meaning. So much of the time, when we use Christian terms or concepts in apologetics and evangelization, we’re using words that are empty of meaning for our listener, or that have had their meaning twisted or trivialized. When we talk about ‘sin,’ people think it just means ‘fun stuff that Christians don’t want us to do.’ When we talk about ‘heaven,’ people often think it means ‘spirits floating around on clouds.’ (I say this as a former atheist who thought precisely that!) If people think sin is no big deal and heaven is boring, then they aren’t going to understand what we say about these things – if they are even interested enough to listen at all. In order for our apologetics discussions to be fruitful, we need our words and ideas to carry real meaning for our listeners – and that’s where imaginative apologetics comes into play.

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One of the key points in my chapter on metaphor is that both figurative and literal language are modes of communication of truth (or falsehood, as the case may be). It is not the case that metaphors are somehow inherently ‘less true’ than propositional language. Scripture is packed full of metaphors, and we can only make sense of what the Bible says if we recognize that this is non-literal, truth-bearing language. Jesus is described as ‘the Lamb of God’: this is a true statement, but it does not mean that the Second Person of the Trinity was incarnate as a baby sheep (we recognize that this would be a very stupid reading of the text). Rather, we see that this powerful image tells us who Jesus is, and what his mission is: he is pure, innocent, gentle; he is also the sacrifice for our sins. We can say all these things in propositional language, but it does not convey the holistic meaning of ‘the Lamb of God,’ in which all these different meanings are simultaneously present and taken in, through the image.

Metaphors, in short, are effective because they are potent (packing a lot of meaning into a single image) and because they are interactive (the reader or hearer has to engage with the image to grasp the metaphor). They are thus highly generative of meaning.

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Facts, Truth and Meaning [View all] yallerdawg Feb 2018 OP
Yeah we understand edhopper Feb 2018 #1
"...the author embraces without question?" yallerdawg Feb 2018 #3
And today edhopper Feb 2018 #8
Once you start on the path, everything changes: yallerdawg Feb 2018 #9
So she KNOWS it edhopper Feb 2018 #10
She wrote a book or two on this subject. yallerdawg Feb 2018 #11
and so edhopper Feb 2018 #12
"Writing books" is not her basis of belief. yallerdawg Feb 2018 #13
apologies edhopper Feb 2018 #14
Imagine, Imagination, and Imaginary All Have the Same Root. MineralMan Feb 2018 #2
"At some point, we have to say to the skeptic... yallerdawg Feb 2018 #4
Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #5
C.S. Lewis made an observation that may elude some folks: yallerdawg Feb 2018 #6
It is a part of the popular meme of "fear based religion" that assumes and requires fear as the guillaumeb Feb 2018 #7
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