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Jesus was born before Mohhamed, so it is more likely that Mohammed tried to borrow Sophia4 Mar 2018 #1
The word Islam means peace. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #2
Mohammed created Islam and then became a warlord general to advance it, he and the army that braddy Mar 2018 #16
Jesus suggested not even defending yourself marylandblue Mar 2018 #21
He did not defend Himself. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #28
I agree that d_r Mar 2018 #5
Jesus physically attacked people Mariana Mar 2018 #17
Once, when he made a scourge of small cords and drove out the money changers from the Temple. braddy Mar 2018 #19
Yes. I was answering the claim Mariana Mar 2018 #20
Since it happened a week before his crucifixion. marylandblue Mar 2018 #22
Jesus' actions at the Temple interfered with the sale of animals for ritual guillaumeb Mar 2018 #29
Right , because if he had only attacked small shopkeepers marylandblue Mar 2018 #30
He was attacking a system. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #31
Much like Trump in his own way. marylandblue Mar 2018 #32
Jesus had better hair. eom guillaumeb Mar 2018 #33
We don't know that because we have no pictures marylandblue Mar 2018 #34
He could not have worse hair. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #35
ok, you win. marylandblue Mar 2018 #36
A first. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #39
Enjoy it. It may be a last as well marylandblue Mar 2018 #40
Nice. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #43
Please! those are fencing foils! marylandblue Mar 2018 #44
He violently assaulted human beings with a weapon Mariana Mar 2018 #37
What it says is: guillaumeb Mar 2018 #41
The crime of assault does not requiry you actually strike a person marylandblue Mar 2018 #45
And marching for peace or other causes can inconvenience traffic. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #62
I never saw any peace marcher cracking a whip marylandblue Mar 2018 #67
An interesting exercise in hyperbole. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #69
No, it's just a matter of reading the story for what it would mean to people who lived it marylandblue Mar 2018 #71
You are attempting to frame your view as that of a typical "someone" of 30CE. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #72
I don't feel I have any special insight into people of that time and place marylandblue Mar 2018 #73
Again, you are imagining what people from 2000 years ago might have felt. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #74
You have the most ahistorical imaginings I've ever seen marylandblue Mar 2018 #75
Your posts are speculative fiction. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #92
church doors were used as bulletin board in those days marylandblue Mar 2018 #96
Luther caused tremendous disruption to the existing social order. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #99
Usually you say people take the story too literally marylandblue Mar 2018 #106
You decided on one interpretation. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #107
You are taking the story too literally and speculating at the same time marylandblue Mar 2018 #108
As I said, you are taking it too literally marylandblue Mar 2018 #139
Hay now. I'm the culprit that says peoples take some Scripture way too sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #121
Temple of GOD. Munye changers conducting BUSINESS in THE HOUSE OF THE LORD. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #79
Do you believe Jesus preached Islam? nt. Mariana Mar 2018 #86
I hold that Jesus preached the Kingdom of God. His Kingdom that primarily was to come. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #89
They want Jesus to have whipped a human being. That's what they want. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #80
Well, no, that would presume he existed at all. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #110
Here we go. 🙄 sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #118
So he only threatened to strike them, if your interpretation is correct. Mariana Mar 2018 #46
Nowhere does it say that He struck them. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #95
They were desecrating the temple of his religion. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #49
For centuries, most of the artists who have depicted the scene Mariana Mar 2018 #53
You don't have to use a whip on people to get them to move. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #60
That is true. Mariana Mar 2018 #61
That's what happens when you look at 'those' pictures. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #81
He carefully avoided the cute innocent animals and smacked the sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #82
Actually, he was desecrating the temple of THEIR religion marylandblue Mar 2018 #57
I thot you were cool with some of this stuff... sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #83
Oh I am cool with it, but what did Jesus seem like to his contemporaries? marylandblue Mar 2018 #85
To the carnal 'eye', senses and 'thinking' there was/will be sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #88
Why, why, why with literal translating ALONE, Sola Scriptura, does not give one the full picture. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #90
I don't think anyone really does do sola scriptura marylandblue Mar 2018 #91
See charlie hebdo. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #58
Jesus brought authority to his Temple. Mohammed raised an army and warred and conquered once he braddy Mar 2018 #23
I wasn't making a comparison between the two. Mariana Mar 2018 #26
Actually, that verse is ambiguous. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #48
It depends on which translation you're reading Mariana Mar 2018 #77
Yes. But in my opinion, what is believed by the followers of a religion may be more Sophia4 Mar 2018 #78
I think you are right marylandblue Mar 2018 #87
"A discussion on Jesus teaching on Muhammads prophecy"? Oh, please. Glorfindel Mar 2018 #3
Jesus taught a religion of peace. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #4
This is called the "root word fallacy" marylandblue Mar 2018 #12
Right. But many people don't know history. I was trying to be nice. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #50
what kind of Chrisitianity did early Islam come in contact with? flyingfysh Mar 2018 #6
A good question. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #8
And yet at the same time there were a variety of Xians around. Igel Mar 2018 #38
There were and are numerous sects in all 3 of the Abrahamic religions. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #42
Muslims say Mohammed's father-in-law was a (Christian?) priest Bretton Garcia Mar 2018 #52
Jesus was influenced Mahayana Buddhism vlyons Mar 2018 #7
Compassion for others is indeed key. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #11
Possible, but is there any historical evidence of Buddhist activity in Judea? marylandblue Mar 2018 #14
I'm not advocating that there were Buddhiist temples and monasteries in Judea vlyons Mar 2018 #24
Nah. Jesus (if he existed at all) was likely a Buddhist. nt Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #9
Retcon. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #10
I had to look that up. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #54
It all goes with the job. safeinOhio Mar 2018 #13
Showing that the message of tolerance and peace is universal. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #15
Similarities Between Buddha and Jesus left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #18
Well no, that's not so vlyons Mar 2018 #25
Hush. Theists are desperately trying Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #55
Sorry, but no again vlyons Mar 2018 #59
The commonality of every system that promotes tolerance, mutual respect, guillaumeb Mar 2018 #27
Cars are not airplanes. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #56
It makes them all religious systems. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #64
At which point youve reduced your claim Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #65
Did you read the entire article? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #66
sure, run away from yet another blunder. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #68
I thought as much. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #70
Islam was invented centuries after Christianity eallen Mar 2018 #47
Number 11: Bill Maher said it is true RainCaster Mar 2018 #51
A long article, but it well illustrates the many commonalities of the 3 Abrahamic religions. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #63
And along comes Christianity and co-opts Judaism. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #84
A surprise to some here? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #93
Some soitenly have a repertoire with no end. It appears thus. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #97
I liked the article as well. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #100
Oh, you. 🤗 sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #102
So what is the sub-text here? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #134
I admit I'm lost hopefully only in this place of 'religion'. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #136
Variations of the golden rule appear in religions that predate Christianity The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #76
True. It is common to all human societies. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #94
Oh my DOG! sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #98
The caves in Lascaux. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #101
Alright. That's more better. Artistry by some 'originals'. Like! sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #105
The problem with those cave paintings marylandblue Mar 2018 #113
Please see my take on this in another post I think I responded to you sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #123
Showing once again that there's nothing you won't claim as the property of your religious tribe. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #109
Showing once again that you will not miss an oportunity guillaumeb Mar 2018 #114
It would be fine if you didn't pretend it applied to all humans. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #125
If it applied to all humans we would not be having this conversation. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #127
My mistake. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #128
Are you aware that what I wrote is an opinion? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #129
And I have replied with mine. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #131
I yam a descendant of The Tribe of Yeshua/Issa. No text. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #122
Neat. I am not. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #126
"Please leave it at that." sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #130
Have I told you, you are not created by your god? AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #132
I am not offended. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #137
Oh, 'spark'.... Thas where the sparky snarky retort has its source in. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #120
Gil always wants to tie prehistoric religion into his Cristianity marylandblue Mar 2018 #112
Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #115
The subtext was clear, and this is not the first time. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #133
First off, one practicing/following/studying not only the Christian Faith, its origins, its organic sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #119
Well, that's at least a clearly stated position based on existing literary tradition marylandblue Mar 2018 #138
I got lost in the shuffle! 😀 sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #140
This thread is getting convoluted marylandblue Mar 2018 #142
I access DU via phone which doesn't have full effect as a pc. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #143
If one claims to be a 'Christian believer', they need to know what they believe and why. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #141
since there's not a shred of evidence that Abraham ever existed, Brainstormy Mar 2018 #103
I accept that you see them so. eom guillaumeb Mar 2018 #104
It illustrates the commonalities by allowing one of them to take ownership over the rest? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #111
The title is, I believe, poetic license. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #116
I doubt it. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #117
I did not find it so. But I understand your view. eom guillaumeb Mar 2018 #124
The only commonality I see is a predeliction to 'That thing you have, is mine'. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #135
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