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In reply to the discussion: Why is Dr. Dawkins and some others such controversial figures? [View all]edhopper
(33,467 posts)20. Aquinas says all thing must be put in motion.
The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion. It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another (let's not talk about the fact that he had know knowledge of physics.)
But then he says there must be something that did not need to be in motion. ie God. Therefore EVERYTHING does not need to be put in motion. By his own admission. Further Dawkins questions why. even if this were so, do you jump to the conclusion that it is an intelligent, all-knowing being?
I think he does a good job at showing that Aquinas' argument for the unmoved mover is weak to nonexistent and merely an attempt to justify something for which there is no evidence. (I believe that is called apriori in philosophy, not sure)
But then he says there must be something that did not need to be in motion. ie God. Therefore EVERYTHING does not need to be put in motion. By his own admission. Further Dawkins questions why. even if this were so, do you jump to the conclusion that it is an intelligent, all-knowing being?
I think he does a good job at showing that Aquinas' argument for the unmoved mover is weak to nonexistent and merely an attempt to justify something for which there is no evidence. (I believe that is called apriori in philosophy, not sure)
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Why is Dr. Dawkins and some others such controversial figures? [View all]
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2011
OP
A fellow "Scientist" who believes in telepathy and generational memory...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2011
#9
Ancedotal evidence is useless without repeatability, do you understand...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2011
#42
Stop misrepresenting science. You can believe whatever the fuck you want...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2011
#28
Because he's critical of religion, and possibly also because he's pro-evolution
LeftishBrit
Dec 2011
#6
"...under direct attack by many people who use misinformation, lies, and ignorance as their weapons.
Jim__
Dec 2011
#10
You attack the whole Dawkins's God Delution based on a paragraph made to be a 'filler'?
Lost-in-FL
Dec 2011
#25
No. I'm merely pointing to one paragraph that demonstrates why his book was attacked.
Jim__
Dec 2011
#29
I prefer conversations that are useful and relevant to the discussion at hand...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2011
#41
Big Bang cosmology doesn't require either "metaphysical" presumption...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2011
#26
Poor phrasing on my part. Emphasis on put, as in - all things in motion MUST be put in motion.
edhopper
Dec 2011
#49