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gtar100

(4,192 posts)
12. Something separate from material? Goodness, I don't know!
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 09:24 PM
Jul 2018

Just my opinion based on my own education and experience (or lack thereof) but I don't think it's a matter of some yet undiscovered "spirit molecule" or something along that line. I lean towards understanding everything as consciousness or mind. Debatable words, no doubt, because people hold differing definitions of what consciousness is with many seeing mind as a human phenomenon and everything else driven by automated behaviors and traits. From what I've read, there's the notion of consciousness emerging out of matter and there's the idea of matter emerging out of consciousness. The latter makes more sense to me. So in answer to your question, it's not only baked in the goods, it's the goods themselves.

A book I like that I think explains this well is by Bernardo Kastrup, "Why Materialism is Baloney" (link: Bernardo Kastrup, "Why Materialism is Baloney"). Fun read if you're into that sort of thing.

"God wanted it this way" Wwcd Jul 2018 #1
"Believe in God because it makes you feel better" Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #2
What about all the research edhopper Jul 2018 #3
For reference, a link to - what I assume is - the cited Asma's column. Jim__ Jul 2018 #4
This atheist agrees BUT... Duppers Jul 2018 #5
It was this specific claim that was nonsense: Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #8
That specific claim is not from Asma's column. Jim__ Jul 2018 #10
Sure it is. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #11
From the original claim: He claims that science can only reach the recently evolved rational ... Jim__ Jul 2018 #13
Narrow definitions aside, it would depend on the individual and what "religion". gtar100 Jul 2018 #6
"But it's far from fact that materialism is the be-all, end-all basis of reality" Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #7
Just curious what mechanism the non material Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #9
Something separate from material? Goodness, I don't know! gtar100 Jul 2018 #12
Oh ok, so you are a philosophical idealist. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #14
A box with a label. Thank you! gtar100 Jul 2018 #15
If it walks like a duck... Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #16
You prefer being rude and condescending. I get it. gtar100 Jul 2018 #18
I don't think you do, actually. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #19
If we accept that there is an observable material Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #17
Monty Python also offers more than religion in times of grief. Pope George Ringo II Jul 2018 #20
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