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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:30 PM Aug 2018

I've been told that I should not point out child sexual abuse [View all]

that is perpetrated by religious leaders, pastors, priests, etc. Apparently that is somehow wrong to do, since some reason I don't understand. I'm asked "but whatabout..." others who are not religious leaders who do such things.

Well, those others do not set themselves up as moral teachers and leaders who claim to be God's voice on Earth. Their acts are still horrendous and vile, but they are not necessarily hypocrites. Those religious leaders are precisely hypocrites and hypocrites of the very worst possible kind.

So, from time to time, I post a news story about some priest, youth pastor or Christian minister who has demonstrated such deplorable hypocrisy. Why? Because such actions by people who claim to represent a deity are especially heinous, it seems to me. They have violated the trust of some innocent child, who has been taught to revere such religious leaders. They have abused that trust, and have done so knowingly, willingly, and very harmfully.

That, to me, is considerably worse than the run of the mill offender, who I still believe should be severely punished. And yet, religious leaders, pastors and ministers often escape punishment, even when caught in acts. All too often, they are simply moved without warning to some other place where they can offend again.

I find that uniquely and disgustingly deplorable. So, I sometimes post here with an example of that sort of harmful hypocrisy. I will not stop doing that. Sorry. Religion is no excuse. In fact, it is the foulest of such behaviors, when done by the religious.

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Say what? Those are the ones who should be top of the list to report abuse of children. Frustratedlady Aug 2018 #1
Yes. That's how it seems to me, too. MineralMan Aug 2018 #2
It's also an inherent element of any patriarchal power structure... TygrBright Aug 2018 #3
Yup - agree with you. It's about control - mind, money, sex. Hypocrites try to accuse others erronis Aug 2018 #12
I have an alternative explanation. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #23
Of *course* not all religious leaders are sexual predators cyclonefence Aug 2018 #4
No, they are clearly not all doing it. MineralMan Aug 2018 #5
Who's doing that? I haven't seen it. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #6
Well, this post is in the Religion Group...so... MineralMan Aug 2018 #8
Do any of those other organizations provide (unlicensed) counseling services to troubled people? Major Nikon Aug 2018 #16
"Religious" leaders attacking children thucythucy Aug 2018 #7
Another particular problem involving abusive therapists and psychologists is The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #9
Good point. thucythucy Aug 2018 #10
In the stone age, when I was a teenager, MineralMan Aug 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Aug 2018 #18
Yes, there are many such stories. MineralMan Aug 2018 #20
Why did you put the word "religious" in quotes? Mariana Aug 2018 #17
I imagine sometimes it is thucythucy Aug 2018 #19
It doesn't matter to victims, no. trotsky Aug 2018 #22
Well, in my experience thucythucy Aug 2018 #24
What I'm saying is that you have absolutely no way to know. trotsky Aug 2018 #27
If we have no way of knowing thucythucy Aug 2018 #28
What reason do you have for NOT believing Trump and Reagan? trotsky Aug 2018 #29
Are you serious? thucythucy Aug 2018 #30
So what? trotsky Aug 2018 #33
Clearly, I never ever said "sufficiently bad people are automatically excluded" thucythucy Aug 2018 #34
Yeah, you did. trotsky Aug 2018 #35
What is interesting is that you can repeat what Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #36
See my post 37. thucythucy Aug 2018 #38
Notice I said "some" not "all." thucythucy Aug 2018 #37
We know some of them are charlatans. Mariana Aug 2018 #41
Thank you. trotsky Aug 2018 #43
How does someone come to the conclusion Mariana Aug 2018 #44
Never said that. thucythucy Aug 2018 #47
No one here has ever said anything like Mariana Aug 2018 #49
Because they think lying scoundrels are less likely to be sincerely religious. trotsky Aug 2018 #58
Again, please notice I said "some" not "all." thucythucy Aug 2018 #45
I did notice you said "some" and not "all". Mariana Aug 2018 #46
She also didn't say that the scumbags are more like to be atheist marylandblue Aug 2018 #50
And you'll notice how my critics on this thread thucythucy Aug 2018 #51
I don't believe you are bigoted. trotsky Aug 2018 #59
"...have internalized a form of religious bigotry." Mariana Aug 2018 #61
You still don't explain how you came to the conclusion Mariana Aug 2018 #60
And yet underlying ALL of that carefully crafted response is still an assumption. trotsky Aug 2018 #42
Every abuser should be talked about. GemDigger Aug 2018 #11
That was indeed bizarre. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #13
I'm not surprised, somehow. MineralMan Aug 2018 #15
Keep on posting, MineralMan.. Permanut Aug 2018 #21
Absolutely! thucythucy Aug 2018 #25
I find it particularly odious when WhiteTara Aug 2018 #26
The military is another hierarchy thucythucy Aug 2018 #31
They're all part of the gang... NeoGreen Aug 2018 #32
The latest report about the abuses perpetrated (and covered up) thucythucy Aug 2018 #39
Law enforcement has traditionally taken a "hands-off" position MineralMan Aug 2018 #40
I agree with everything you've said here. thucythucy Aug 2018 #48
Colorado has a statute that I wish were universal gtar100 Aug 2018 #52
"I have been told..." guillaumeb Aug 2018 #53
Why do you ask? MineralMan Aug 2018 #54
It is in your own chosen title, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #55
I see. MineralMan Aug 2018 #56
I also see. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #57
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