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guillaumeb

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Tue Aug 28, 2018, 03:10 PM Aug 2018

Why it's so hard to hold priests accountable for sex abuse [View all]

From the article:

Escaping accountability
The 1983 revision put forward by Pope John Paul II to the entire code made it impossible for bishops to dismiss priests. Authority for doing so became centralized in the Vatican.....


The 1983 code also reduced the maximum time within which proceedings could be initiated against priests having sex with a child to five years.
With victims often, understandably, not coming forward for years, that meant many priests escaped internal punishment by the Vatican.
Canonical trials also require the cooperation of the victim as a witness and are another obstacle to holding priests accountable. The code has encouraged the very inaction by bishops that the pope condemns.....

Since 2001, in a further centralizing move, the Vatican has required that bishops send all cases of substantiated allegations of child sex abuse to its Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is located at the Vatican, and is usually headed by a powerful Cardinal.


To read more of a somewhat long article:

https://religionnews.com/2018/08/27/why-its-so-hard-to-hold-priests-accountable-for-sex-abuse/

Centralizing of power and authority seems to be the key issue, as well as a refusal to mandate cooperation with civil authorities.
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Yeah, well the cops don't have to honor any of that bullshit ... just sayin' mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #1
No, but the police must be aware that a crime was committed. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #2
Indeed, which is why all these 'procedures' are f'ing BS, pardon my language ... mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #3
Agreed. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #7
I understand your need to argue that the RCC is like every other group.. Permanut Aug 2018 #19
Group behavior is the similarity. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #21
Because priests are part of a closed cabal. That's why. MineralMan Aug 2018 #4
I did know that, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #8
Protect the predators from what, gil? trotsky Aug 2018 #15
You want to know why it's so difficult with the RCC? trotsky Aug 2018 #5
No, I don't think he wants to know. MineralMan Aug 2018 #6
The article highlights the procedural barriers. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #9
Because the church puts canon law above secular law. trotsky Aug 2018 #14
I read the article. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #20
Yet here we are in the Religion group. trotsky Aug 2018 #22
You missed my point entirely. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #23
I totally understand your point. trotsky Aug 2018 #24
Again, you missed my point. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #25
But you don't think their religion is a factor. trotsky Aug 2018 #26
I think that religion is a circumstance, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #27
It is a religious belief of the Catholic church that canon law takes precedence over secular law. trotsky Aug 2018 #28
No, it is an organizational belief. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #29
The organization is a religion, gil. trotsky Aug 2018 #30
I understand your need to sustain your narrative about theism, and me. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #31
Well now I've heard everything. trotsky Aug 2018 #32
More misreading. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #33
Not when you refuse to actually defend what you say. trotsky Aug 2018 #34
Is your game creating positions for others? guillaumeb Aug 2018 #35
No surprise, you refuse to defend what you say. trotsky Sep 2018 #36
Nothing that hasn't been discussed here Lordquinton Aug 2018 #10
The Inquisition Lordquinton Aug 2018 #11
Because the RCC is a criminal organization adept Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #12
Seven simple steps... NeoGreen Aug 2018 #13
That's just the cover up part Major Nikon Aug 2018 #16
Granted... NeoGreen Aug 2018 #17
Willful ignorance is a good description Major Nikon Aug 2018 #18
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