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trotsky

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94. No, we "both" aren't doing it.

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:05 AM

Oct 2019

Anyone who says they are a Christian, as they understand the word, is one as far as I'm concerned. I'm not judging. You are the one who declares that people who claim to be Christian really aren't.

Do you understand yet or do we need to go through this some more?

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In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace [View all] progressoid Oct 2019 OP

K&R reACTIONary Oct 2019 #1

Probably wouldn't be happening Cartaphelius Oct 2019 #103

When was Christianity not about wealth and power? Mariana Oct 2019 #108

Completely agree. Constantine did not convert because he was a true believer... Raster Oct 2019 #128

They're so hateful these days IronLionZion Oct 2019 #2

In my family I was considered to be the last person who would leave the Catholic Church 47of74 Oct 2019 #3

A ton of them are just awful. ramen Oct 2019 #12

Yes, For Us There is Liberation Theology at UCC McKim Oct 2019 #16

Yep, it depends on where you are. paleotn Oct 2019 #22

O RLY? Aquaria Oct 2019 #62

"These days"? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #24

Then liberals should win more elections IronLionZion Oct 2019 #27

That's a non-sequitur. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #29

I'm still hoping the rapture would happen already IronLionZion Oct 2019 #32

Agree. That's where I am directing SCantiGOP Oct 2019 #53

Maybe the rapture has already happened? And they are still here with us. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #55

You can almost tell what kind of Christian someone is by the political party they identify with. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2019 #129

Thank you, Jesus. Great news. 3Hotdogs Oct 2019 #4

+10 nt reACTIONary Oct 2019 #105

Thank god Major Nikon Oct 2019 #5

This can't happen quickly enough for me. mwb970 Oct 2019 #6

Their meddling and lying in politics has soured many. nt NCjack Oct 2019 #7

PRAISE KORESH!!! AZ8theist Oct 2019 #8

And thank you for that bit of atheistic bigotry. I knew that the DU atheists couldn't resist. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #14

What do you think about the news in the OP? nt. Mariana Oct 2019 #34

I already knew it. And to a large extent, the religious leaders have brought it on themselves. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #43

Sounds like you made the perfect case for us Atheists. Eko Oct 2019 #52

"turned into a theocracy, with, of course, them in control." Going to be some religious wars. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #56

You're very welcome!! Anytime!! AZ8theist Oct 2019 #38

If I were to insult Jews. African-Americans or Hispanics or women or even atheists Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #41

Except they didn't insult religious people. trotsky Oct 2019 #42

And who has those beliefs? Religious people do. At least, some religious people do. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #44

And yet, they're still just beliefs. Open to criticism, unless you prefer to censor that. trotsky Oct 2019 #45

Who holds these beliefs? PEOPLE do. You are insulting the people, and see nothing wrong with it Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #47

Yet ideas are still not people. You're flailing desperately. trotsky Oct 2019 #49

Thank you trotsky AZ8theist Oct 2019 #50

No problem, you're welcome. trotsky Oct 2019 #65

I'm pretty certain that Fortinbras Armstrong understood you, too Mariana Oct 2019 #72

You reveal your agenda regularly. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #88

You are completely wrong about me, as usual. But you've got your narrative I guess. trotsky Oct 2019 #95

Also as usual projects his bad behavior on others in true Freudian fashion Major Nikon Oct 2019 #98

It's remarkable the similarity his tactics have with GOP/Soviet-style propaganda techniques. trotsky Oct 2019 #99

Notable, but not all that remarkable Major Nikon Oct 2019 #100

Ironic, and that is all that needs to be said. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #123

Your behavior is on display. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #124

Indeed it is. And so is yours. trotsky Oct 2019 #131

Get back to us when someone actually insults people instead of an idea Major Nikon Oct 2019 #90

Right on, Major.. AZ8theist Oct 2019 #125

Long time no see... MineralMan Oct 2019 #89

Conservatives Christians are their own worst enemies Martin Eden Oct 2019 #9

That's actually a good thing. calimary Oct 2019 #19

Though agnostic myself, I'm not anti-faith Martin Eden Oct 2019 #21

No kidding! calimary Oct 2019 #33

Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #58

Or maybe young people figured out it's all just a bunch of bullshit. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #25

One size does not fit all Martin Eden Oct 2019 #30

Except Agnosticism isn't a religious belief. Aquaria Oct 2019 #61

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2019 #63

I didn't suggest it was Martin Eden Oct 2019 #64

"I don't have a belief, because I don't know." trotsky Oct 2019 #66

EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING is an Agnostic... AZ8theist Oct 2019 #127

And yet believers will work overtime trying to convince everyone otherwise Major Nikon Oct 2019 #130

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #57

Most of them probably have a genuine Christian faith. Mariana Oct 2019 #73

Yeah! Putting babies in cages is part of the Christian faith. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #74

And they would have the same attitude about abortion. trotsky Oct 2019 #75

"they" ,,, "Both of you" - But you don't include yourself? keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #76

No, because I'm not a Christian. n/t trotsky Oct 2019 #78

Irrelevant. You're making judgement of who might be a "sincere" Christian. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #79

He is saying both of you are "sincere" Christians edhopper Oct 2019 #80

"Faith doesn't require anything but belief." keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #83

He/she practices what they believe edhopper Oct 2019 #84

Good one! keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #85

"The Bible is a menu of options and so is Christianity." Mariana Oct 2019 #86

Oftentimes the method of religion is more important than the God of religion. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #87

No, that's you making the judgment. trotsky Oct 2019 #81

Of course I do. We are both doing it. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #82

No, we "both" aren't doing it. trotsky Oct 2019 #94

Please continue. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #96

OK trotsky Oct 2019 #97

I've been watching you dig your hole and it just keeps getting deeper Major Nikon Oct 2019 #101

"is one as far as I'm concerned" keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #107

Oh I see your confusion now. trotsky Oct 2019 #110

No confusion - "is one as far as I'm concerned" is your judgement. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #112

Right, got it. trotsky Oct 2019 #114

There's nothing magical about Christianity Mariana Oct 2019 #111

Yep keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #113

Then you admit the right wing Christians are still Christians? trotsky Oct 2019 #115

You say you are leaving but you cannot keep your word. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #116

Can't resist when I see you blatantly contradict yourself. trotsky Oct 2019 #117

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #118

Changing one's mind isn't lying. Mariana Oct 2019 #119

Maybe he's not a "sincere" Christian? trotsky Oct 2019 #120

Looks like a jury already did that. Mariana Oct 2019 #121

The US prisons are FULL of Christians...like 98% AZ8theist Oct 2019 #126

Please stop typing things twice. It isn't necessary. Mariana Oct 2019 #92

And yet beating and/or executing disobedient children is Major Nikon Oct 2019 #102

Good one! keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #106

Believe it or not, most every Christian will explain it to you whether or not you ask Major Nikon Oct 2019 #109

Thanks Trump. The hypocrisy of many "Christian" leaders has been exposed Freethinker65 Oct 2019 #10

This trend has been going on long before Trump was put in office. Mariana Oct 2019 #35

Trump devout Christian - practice Christianity keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #59

Even in Kentucky... phandancer917 Oct 2019 #11

And now we have a U.S. Attorney General Barr who ignores (?) the separation of church and state. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #13

these people are the reason why christianity is falling apart. EricaGriswoldAuthor Oct 2019 #17

Yes, plenty of Christians don't like it. Mariana Oct 2019 #36

Religious fundamentalism is nothing new. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #67

baptists are loosing members too. EricaGriswoldAuthor Oct 2019 #68

OK Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #69

They are, but not at the same rate Major Nikon Oct 2019 #104

TOTALLY RIGHT! They are the movement that drove my otherwise dedicate parents away from church. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #70

Barr believes his religion is being attacked when he is not permitted to impose it others Martin Eden Oct 2019 #31

Separation keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #60

Hart was a rwnj Cartoonist Oct 2019 #122

If the trends continue at their last 10 year pace..... paleotn Oct 2019 #15

Good pamdb Oct 2019 #18

This isn't even vaguely accurate amcgrath Oct 2019 #20

They are Christians whether you like it or not. trotsky Oct 2019 #23

I rarely hear two sentences from them without mentioning Jesus Major Nikon Oct 2019 #91

And the best part and ironic thing about this whole analysis and trend...they brought it all on ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #26

Well, there is also the nature of reality which suggests that supernatural shit ... is bullshit ... mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #28

I don't know many atheists citing Bill Barr as a significant reason for their lack of faith. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #37

They have been worshiping the Golden Calf ThoughtCriminal Oct 2019 #39

The Golden Calf was a lie the Hebrews told themselves to feel better about a shitty situation. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #46

Except Pastafarianism SCantiGOP Oct 2019 #54

Ramen! Newest Reality Oct 2019 #77

"what kind of church Satan would set up" keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #93

I'm happy for them I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2019 #40

One of the great Christian writers of the 20th century, Thomas Merton, wrote Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2019 #48

Disinviting madamesilverspurs Oct 2019 #51

...as it should. (n/t) Iggo Oct 2019 #71