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In reply to the discussion: Why Do People Believe in Hell? [View all]

Binkie The Clown

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35. If god is truly infinitely loving and merciful, then even Hitler went to heaven.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jan 2020

The problem is that humans just can't accept that as a possibility, so they must invent a place of ultimate revenge.

You would think that any god worth the name would want his "children" to learn by their mistakes. Would any parent who caught their child in a lie or found out that the child had stolen fifty cents from the mother's purse throw the child into the basement and lock them there for the rest of their life? Don't be ridiculous. We try to help our children learn from their mistakes so that they can become better people. Apparently this so-called god doesn't want people to become better. Eternal punishment for a finite crime is nothing more than the human need for vengeance, not the impulse to help. Hell leaves no possibility of learning from mistakes, and is, therefore, petty and vindictive, and is clealry a human invention.

Disclaimer: I don't believe in god or the devil or any kind of eternal reward or punishment. It's all fairy tales and mythology meant to comfort us when scary things go bump in the night.

Why Do People Believe in Hell? [View all] Cattledog Jan 2020 OP
In my view, hell is a metaphor for a separation from the Creator. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #1
That's the lame ass "it's not that bad" hell. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #5
No, it the assertion that hell, and sin, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #6
I swear you've claimed that your gods are everywhere. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #8
It is a separation, an apartness. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #12
So your gods are not everywhere. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #17
Your statement bears no relation to what I wrote. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20
So gods are not part of consciousness? Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #23
As I said, in my view hell is a state of being. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #24
And you are also claiming that your gods are everywhere? Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #25
The Creator is inseparable from the creation. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #26
But these hell inhabitants are separate from your gods. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #29
They are spiritually "apart" from the Creator. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #37
I'd rather laugh with the sinners edhopper Jan 2020 #9
Oh yeah that's how you avoid the "god sends people to hell" problem... trotsky Jan 2020 #14
I'm okay with the separation Cartoonist Jan 2020 #15
Consider sin as another word for behaving unjustly toward others. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #16
I've only done that a few times Cartoonist Jan 2020 #18
A fantastic image. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #21
Lol😂 dewsgirl Jan 2020 #27
That is the Reform Jewish interpretation Cary Jan 2020 #31
I had no idea. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #38
It just meant as information Cary Jan 2020 #39
Regarding the Bible as mainly metaphor, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #40
if they literally followed the Bible they'd be nasty, vindictive slugs. Cary Jan 2020 #41
And I feel that there are no true literalists. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #45
How about where God denied Moses entrance into the promised land Cary Jan 2020 #42
Because they are nuts? we can do it Jan 2020 #2
I was going to say "because I need a fitting place to picture Croney Jan 2020 #3
😂 we can do it Jan 2020 #4
With what we know about Republicans and their supporters, I hope it exists. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #7
Why do people believe in divinity at all. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #10
Convenient way for the early church to control people TlalocW Jan 2020 #11
The promise of reward or punishment for the controlled behavior Major Nikon Jan 2020 #13
+1 Duppers Jan 2020 #19
Our 'individual Hells' (economic, mental, relationship, environment, etc etc. ARE REAL. JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #22
Usually I sigh over people's inability to comprehend metaphor & other literary devices in the Bible. catrose Jan 2020 #28
With metaphor all things are possible Major Nikon Jan 2020 #43
Love it! Metaphorically, of course catrose Jan 2020 #44
It offends evangelicals when people "get away" with things the evangelicals call sins. Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #30
Authoritarians Cary Jan 2020 #33
I was in an Uber a couple of days ago and a hard core Christian Cary Jan 2020 #32
I think a lot of people love to see others in pain. Srkdqltr Jan 2020 #34
If god is truly infinitely loving and merciful, then even Hitler went to heaven. Binkie The Clown Jan 2020 #35
I do not believe in consciousness after death unblock Jan 2020 #36
Indoctrination, conditioning, repeated lies, brainwashing... NeoGreen Jan 2020 #46
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