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Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. Lately,
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020

I have an issue with belief in all its forms, even though I am glad that their is that shift.

You can believe anything and not even know the how or why of it. Sounds true to me!

It would also be good if young people learned to carefully discern the difference between belief, knowledge and information. I could go into that more, but let it suffice.

I am not as moved by more people believing x if they don't KNOW why x is believable in the first place and it misses the fundamental point. When they know as much as they can that shifts the equation closer to knowing than believing and that knowledge is then useful for processing information about the subject.

I think beliefs are fine, but they could be put into their proper context. Imagination is wonderful, but it has its own realm in the noosphere. If we want to be scientific about things, then my point stands. If x amount of people agree with the findings of evolution and don't really know any details about why they do, it is still a belief and belies the fact that science is a process and even subject to change rather than a firm collection of dogmatic facts, and facts are very few in that sense.

My understanding of the word, "belief" is that its etymology may go back to old Germanic and the word "lief" which means to make things up and there for to "be lief" is to be making up things, which we humans can celebrate because our creativity brings all kinds of possibilities into existence from fables to facts.

Lately, Newest Reality Feb 2020 #1
Yes, here we go again. Religious belief is no different than trust in science. Major Nikon Feb 2020 #5
Nope. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #7
Obsolecence... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #8
Are you presenting a challenge to yourself? Major Nikon Feb 2020 #24
There are two ways to post. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #26
It doesn't rub me the wrong way Major Nikon Feb 2020 #29
Thanks. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #31
Occam's razor was never a valid proof for God Cartoonist Feb 2020 #11
I didn't say it was. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #12
You're still wrong about Occam. Cartoonist Feb 2020 #13
Can you be more specific? Newest Reality Feb 2020 #14
A good way to put it: Newest Reality Feb 2020 #15
Maybe you could comment on: Newest Reality Feb 2020 #16
I can see that Cartoonist Feb 2020 #17
Well, Newest Reality Feb 2020 #18
My God?????? Cartoonist Feb 2020 #19
You can't see it? Newest Reality Feb 2020 #20
Excuse me! Cartoonist Feb 2020 #21
No problem. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #22
Feynman died 32 years ago, before we could even map the CMB (2013). AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #37
Who the fuck is positing Ockham's Razor as a "Proof" or "bulletproof assertion of actual fact" AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #36
"Evolution is a theory" Major Nikon Feb 2020 #23
Thanks for your opinion! Newest Reality Feb 2020 #25
Speaking of arguing with yourself... Major Nikon Feb 2020 #32
Ok. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #34
Another one who doesn't understand the term "theory" VMA131Marine Feb 2020 #28
I understand it that way. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #30
Have you read Pigliucci's "Philosophy of PseudoScience"? Jim__ Feb 2020 #38
Dictionaries I can find suggest it's related to words for either 'love' or 'precious'/'pleasing' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #40
Most Christians believe in some form of creationism Major Nikon Feb 2020 #2
Religion and science should be able to meld. JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #3
At what point do you stop discarding? Major Nikon Feb 2020 #6
I have a hard time stopping JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #33
Yes, but that's two separate things Major Nikon Feb 2020 #41
No. trotsky Feb 2020 #35
In theory, yes. In practice that rarely happens. Major Nikon Feb 2020 #42
Yeah? Well God will tend to their sorry asses when the time comes 3Hotdogs Feb 2020 #4
Trump atty Jay Seculow spent most of his adult life pushing comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #9
Fire Betsy DeVos. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #10
I was taught that God created the evolutionary process greymalkin415 Feb 2020 #27
Pretty inefficient means of creation, if you ask me. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #39
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. hunter Feb 2020 #43
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