"Claim" to be Catholics? (Reply #1) - Democratic Underground

In the discussion thread: Juan Cole: Dear Rightwing Catholic Islamophobes [View all]

Tue Apr 2, 2013, 06:37 AM

trotsky (49,311 posts)

1. "Claim" to be Catholics?

Turning a blind eye to the truth - that they ARE Catholics, and if you go by the church's teachings, they might just be in better standing than most liberal ones - doesn't help anything.

Ironic that Cole uses the phrase "cafeteria Catholics" when that's exactly what the liberal Catholics are too, parading only the values that accord with their secular "heresy" (birth control, abortion, gay marriage, etc.).

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44 replies	Author	Time	Post
Juan Cole: Dear Rightwing Catholic Islamophobes [View all]	eridani	Apr 2013	OP
"Claim" to be Catholics?	trotsky	Apr 2013	#1
"Cafeteria Catholic" means Catholics who pick and choose among Catholic teachings	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#4
"torture is malum in se -- evil in and of itself"	trotsky	Apr 2013	#6
I would say that you have a basic misunderstanding of Hell and how one goes there	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#7
Ah, the old "people choose to go to hell" defense.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#8
No, my answer to your question is that you don't really understand	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#14
There's nothing reasonable about your answer, because it's a cop-out.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#15
No, it is not a cop-out, unlike your blowing off my response	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#16
How can that be a valid comparison at all?	trotsky	Apr 2013	#17
Oh, I see	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#19
All I want is for you to explain how sending a child to their room...	trotsky	Apr 2013	#20
The objection is	skepticscott	Apr 2013	#30
If a parent	EvolveOrConvolve	Apr 2013	#23
Wow, this is just a bona fide evil being that you worship.	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2013	#25
Another person who wants to do whatever he wants without consequences	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#29
That argument has been shot to pieces already	skepticscott	Apr 2013	#31
I don't need a cosmic dictator to obey to behave morally...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2013	#36
Wow, you just have no answers for anything, do you?	skepticscott	Apr 2013	#38
All Christians are Cafeteria Christians.	backscatter712	Apr 2013	#11
Well the teachings that came out of Christs mouth were be nice.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#32
what about the so-called 'old testament' and pentatuech?	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#39
That is very true that parts of the bible would not be considered moral by todays standard.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#41
still.. which bible?	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#42
I don't see the bible as a terrible book.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#43
The article does not state they "claim" to be Catholics.	rug	Apr 2013	#9
What is really tiring	pipoman	Apr 2013	#2
What is REALLY trying	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#5
along with	pipoman	Apr 2013	#24
+100	demosincebirth	Apr 2013	#26
So, anyone who "claims" to be a Catholic isn't really one?	mr blur	Apr 2013	#3
James Joyce defined Catholicism as	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#10
I think he makes the distinction very eloquently and it is an important one to make.	cbayer	Apr 2013	#12
Should liberal Catholics have their behavior contrasted with that of the new pope as well?	trotsky	Apr 2013	#13
You won't get an answer. That's a gotcha question.	cleanhippie	Apr 2013	#18
You and I know it very well.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#21
i'm paying attention..	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#22
I would say most liberal Roman Catholics don't worry if they don't obey the pope on something.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#33
The point is, conservative Catholics don't worry either.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#35
We all fall short.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#37
Did anybody else catch this line?	Lordquinton	Apr 2013	#27
Fascism as defined by Mussolini (who ought to know) is	eridani	Apr 2013	#28
I noticed it as well.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#34
yes plz. do explain.. \n	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#40
Saying that they can't be facist	Lordquinton	Apr 2013	#44

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