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Phillip McCleod

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14. thx for that..
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:26 AM
Jun 2013

i was hoping someone else had more than a passing familiarity with this international order, and so knew why comparison to religion is warranted.

i would go further and argue that we can't fully understand US history and the history of religion in the West without going back to the late 17th / early 18th century and starting over.. this time *including* Freemasonry as an integral component in the larger story of Europeans on the world stage. *especially* America.. and not just North America.

simon bolivar was a freemason. so was prince piotr kropotkin.

so was the black abolitionist Prince Hall.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall
..after whom 'Prince Hall Freemasonry' was named.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall_Freemasonry

and you are spot on about 'Eastern Star'.. it is the 'ladies auxiliary' and was invented centuries after the fact to deflect from opening membership. 'Prince Hall' is a similar 'auxiliary order' for black men.

conspiracy theorists have all but ruined the topic for serious discussion, but that doesn't change what happened in history.

Ever visited a Masonic Temple? [View all] Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 OP
Um... TlalocW Jun 2013 #1
lol arely staircase Jun 2013 #7
Probably more filling than that Masonic Temple durbin Jun 2013 #11
i've gone to those here.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #24
No, but I have my great-grandfather's Masonic cufflinks. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #2
That's cool. You can either enter them with curiosity and an open mind or cbayer Jun 2013 #3
I love going into places far outside my world of experiences goldent Jun 2013 #4
I have been to Masonic Temples edhopper Jun 2013 #5
i think it was the architecture of the Knights Templar.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #25
The first time I stepped into a Lodge... jeepnstein Jun 2013 #6
I've spent quite a bit of time in them Marrah_G Jun 2013 #8
Likewise okasha Jun 2013 #9
'sanctuary' is an excellent word, imo.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #12
Yes. I thought it was nice. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #10
Bullshit boy's club. PassingFair Jun 2013 #13
thx for that.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #14
I thought it was cool of Jack White to pay their back taxes, as it IS a kick-ass.... PassingFair Jun 2013 #15
i've been asked to join thrice now. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #16
The European "fraternities" allow atheists. PassingFair Jun 2013 #17
yeh 'Bill' said.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #18
My father never joined, either. PassingFair Jun 2013 #19
exactly.. to 'do good' is the point of the masonic order.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #22
the grand lodge of scotland is among the oldest, btw. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #20
Go along to get along..... PassingFair Jun 2013 #21
interesting.. i was reading somewherez on teh webz.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #23
I saw the Rolling Stones perform here in 1978, for $10 a ticket. The "Some Girls" tour. kwassa Jun 2013 #26
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