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Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:27 AM

1. Too much has been made...

...of Francis's "tone" change.

There's been no movement in actual Church teaching on progressive issues.

"Who am I to judge?" is a nice token nod to the LGBTQ community, but there will be no changes to canon law about homosexuality being "intrinsically disordered.

Francis has mentioned "studying" the idea of women deacons, but those kind of studies have been going on for decades. PRIESTLY ordination will never be conferred upon women. JP II's Ordinatio Sacerdotalis states "the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful". Francis has upheld the content this apostolic letter.

Francis has been just as vocal with upholding the Church's anti-choice stance as any of his predecessors.

And Francis still adheres to "The Devil made them do it" narrative about the sexual abuse crisis. The enablers, like Wuerl, are held up as models of episcopacy and left with tremendous influence and power.

I left the Roman Church because of all of this. I am a dissenter and a heretic in that I still call myself Catholic and worship with an independent sacramental church (www.celticchristianchurch.org) that ordains women all the way to the episcopate, marries LGBTQ, confers ordination on LGBTQ and married folk, leaves a woman's right to choose between her and her doctor, etc. and so on.

I am and always will be Catholic. Just not ROMAN Catholic.

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