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longship

(40,416 posts)
18. I am not committed to "fraud" charge.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jun 2013

It may be legit. But it has the attributes of previous fraud or hoaxes. This makes these claims suspect to a community of people (scientists) who operate by releasing their research findings publicly so that others can verify and validate those claims. Or, indeed, falsify them.

I have no dog in this hunt other than to observe that this project is doing things outside the normal scientific methodology. That makes the claims suspect from the get go.

On top of that, there would be a lot of physics upended if cold fusion were true. That raises the bar significantly higher. Again, the Pons and Fleishman debacle looms large here.

Just the fact that they do not reveal details is troubling. And the hoaxers and the deluded never do not claim protection for their financial interests when sweeping their so-called science behind a veil of secrecy.

Until this is peer reviewed one must be skeptical of secret claims like this.

Sorry, my friend.

Fusion? I'm not too sure about it. longship Jun 2013 #1
"cold fusion kooks claim" ...Nice to see you've no preconceptions Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #2
Right! longship Jun 2013 #3
It's very simple. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #4
But one cannot claim a science break through without peer review. longship Jun 2013 #5
If it's real, then it's about the profit. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #6
Well, if it's real. longship Jun 2013 #8
Again if it's real publishing is the least of the issues. So is getting a Nobel Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #11
My point is that it isn't science longship Jun 2013 #13
Doesnt nessacariy have to be fraud, although I know your Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #15
I am not committed to "fraud" charge. longship Jun 2013 #18
Understandable sentiment Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #19
The GOAL is to produce electricity from a reaction and the ONLY byproduct is nutrinos. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #9
cold fusion is a delusion kiri Jun 2013 #7
Never say never. secondvariety Jun 2013 #16
Why isn't America leading this important research? tclambert Jun 2013 #10
The US had a research-program for a pulsed fusion-reactor. DetlefK Jul 2013 #20
The US has it's own research groups. Angleae Jul 2013 #22
We could build three of them for what we spent in 1 year on the Iraq War phantom power Jun 2013 #12
We could build ten secondvariety Jun 2013 #14
Seem to be missing Something Here packman Jun 2013 #17
All national supply-grids are tuned towards centralized procuction of electricity. DetlefK Jul 2013 #21
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