Redefining 'intelligence', and then using that to say "we're not more intelligent than other animals (Reply #18)

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Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:03 PM

muriel_volestrangler (99,035 posts)

18. Redefining 'intelligence', and then using that to say "we're not more intelligent than other animals

is pretty pointless and meaningless.

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46 replies	Author	Time	Post
Humans are not smarter than animals - we just don't understand them [View all]	Judi Lynn	Dec 2013	OP
is this the onion?	itsrobert	Dec 2013	#1
Oh yeah? Let's see them twerk	progressoid	Dec 2013	#2
K&R As usual, Douglas Adams was right.	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#3
Thread win here.	longship	Dec 2013	#4
Right fucking on.	BrotherIvan	Dec 2013	#7
A common measure of IQ is reaction time	KurtNYC	Dec 2013	#5
this runs into the serious issue of what do we mean by "smarter"	mindwalker_i	Dec 2013	#6
I'm smarter than my cat.	The_Commonist	Dec 2013	#8
My dog's smarter than I am ...	Scuba	Dec 2013	#9
Maybe they are wiser at doing what they do	CFLDem	Dec 2013	#10
I will drop you and my dog off in the wilderness...	SoLeftIAmRight	Dec 2013	#19
Well it wouldn't be the dog.	CFLDem	Dec 2013	#20
wiser yes. human beings have barely (if at all) retained the ability to have fun for no reason	Voice for Peace	Dec 2013	#26
There's a hell of a lot of us...	Thor_MN	Dec 2013	#39
'compatible' .. that's a big order.	Voice for Peace	Dec 2013	#41
Not really. Give two people nothing to do.	Thor_MN	Dec 2013	#42
I don't doubt that animals are intelligent. I do doubt they are as intelligent as humans beings.	Jim__	Dec 2013	#11
Artificial Intelligence research runs into the same problem.	hunter	Dec 2013	#12
yeah no we are	qazplm	Dec 2013	#13
Dogs trained humans to take care of them.	Neoma	Dec 2013	#22
cats do the same.	Voice for Peace	Dec 2013	#27
I think dogs have adjusted better in order to appear useful.	Neoma	Dec 2013	#29
you may be right, though the cats do bring me a mouse :(	Voice for Peace	Dec 2013	#30
We often fail to see the intelligence of animals because of our tendency to anthropomorphize.	gtar100	Dec 2013	#14
How many animals do you think are working out what goes on in the minds of other species?	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2013	#16
You are still judging intelligence by human standards.	gtar100	Dec 2013	#17
Redefining 'intelligence', and then using that to say "we're not more intelligent than other animals	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2013	#18
Dogs put quite a bit of effort into exactly that.	hunter	Dec 2013	#43
I don't think they have the concept of a 'mind'	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2013	#44
I know what a brain is, what is a mind?	hunter	Dec 2013	#45
Intelligence can be compared; humans are more intelligent than other animals	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2013	#46
^	Wilms	Dec 2013	#15
Only humans have complex language, both spoken and written, and indulge in abstract thought.	Lionel Mandrake	Dec 2013	#21
We didn't used to read as a species.	Neoma	Dec 2013	#23
It's true that our species didn't evolve to read and write.	Lionel Mandrake	Dec 2013	#24
So because animals can't do what is limited to human beings...	Neoma	Dec 2013	#25
LOL! So, regurgitation of the ignorance-based arguments that led to an erroneous conclusion	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#31
Do you think that all animals are EQUALLY intelligent?	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2013	#32
No. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#33
Then there's a continuum, and humans must fall somewhere on it	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2013	#34
Certainly. The problem lies when one species that lacks the senses to even have	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#35
You're not making sense(s).	Lionel Mandrake	Dec 2013	#36
Senses. I thought the metaphor would help to clarify.	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#37
We are not blind or deaf; nor do we lack a sense of smell.	Lionel Mandrake	Dec 2013	#38
Animal lovers have known this since they were born...	liberalmuse	Dec 2013	#28
If one has made oneself subservient to another species...	Thor_MN	Dec 2013	#40

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