Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Science

enough

(13,256 posts)

1. I can't get to the article at the link, but I'd be curious to know

Reply to ellenrr (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:07 AM

Nov 2015

how they define the difference between mindfulness meditation and sham mindfulness meditation.

This sounds like snark, but I don't mean it that way. In the context of the experiment, it would be interesting to know what were the characteristics of the "real" mediation that the sham meditation did not have.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

20 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Journal of Neuroscience: Mindfulness Meditation Decreases Pain more than placebo [View all] ellenrr Nov 2015 OP

I can't get to the article at the link, but I'd be curious to know enough Nov 2015 #1

It's a very mainstream journal greymattermom Nov 2015 #2

As I said in my question, I was asking a serious question, not doubting the science or the Journal enough Nov 2015 #7

That would be my immediate question, too. longship Nov 2015 #3

Mindfulness training is used by major corporations such as Google and Apple Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #4

I do not assume that it is woo. That is why I'm wondering about the question of enough Nov 2015 #8

Of course Myrth Nov 2015 #5

C.G. Jung Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #6

Excellent quotes. Duppers Nov 2015 #9

Even 'the placebo effect' is a form of mindfulness in a way Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #10

So the conclusion is that Mindfulness Meditation works better for pain than doing nothing? Thor_MN Dec 2015 #11

no it works better than the placebo effect Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #12

The placebo IS doing nothing. The placebo effect is based on faith that something is being done. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #13

The placebo is NOT "doing nothing" bananas Dec 2015 #14

The placebo is inert, therefore doing nothing. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #15

That's not correct. bananas Dec 2015 #17

You are comingling the term "Placebo" with the term "Placebo Effect". Thor_MN Dec 2015 #18

You're comingling "no treatment" with "placebo". bananas Dec 2015 #19

The active placebo that you seem to not understand does nothing for the condition being studied. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #20

The reason pain control techniques were developed by the meditative traditions bananas Dec 2015 #16