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Response to Eko (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:37 AM

17. I'm some kind of quixotic Luddite and evolutionary biologist.

I'm here on this planet watching a consumer economy powered by "clean burning natural" gas cause a mass extinction.

There's nothing clean about gas. Using it as fuel, at any rate, only adds to carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere.

I think your giant windmills are ugly ineffective bling on the natural gas industry, like some garish $100 protective cover on a brand new iPhone. That's not progress.

Unlike NNadir, I've no hostility toward neighbors who install solar panels on their roofs -- they are probably powering my 20 watt internet ramblings whenever the sun shines. I don't oppose solar installations over parking lots and such, provided the panels are manufactured in environmentally responsible ways, which many are not. But I still see them as consumer goods.

The only way out of this hole we've dug is to reverse human population growth and that can only be accomplished by education and birth control, starting with the people who are the most active participants in the high energy consumer economy. Supporting agencies like Planned Parenthood, and encouraging the education and empowerment of women worldwide is the most effective action an environmentalist can take.

I'll go back to a premise I've stated many times here: Economic "productivity" as we now define it is a direct measure of the damage we are doing to what's left of the earth's natural environment and our own human spirit.

If monster windmills are economically justified in our consumer economy, that's probably a bad thing.

I'm not buying what you are selling.





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