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hunter

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12. That chart neglects the commitment to natural gas each kilowatt of wind or solar power represents.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:13 PM
Jun 2019

When you look at the capacity factors of wind or solar, and account for the gas that will be burned when wind or solar power isn't available, wind and solar don't look so attractive.

A hybrid electric grid where half or more of the energy is coming from natural gas isn't going to save the world, especially in a growing world economy where more and more people are expecting to buy consumer goods such as air conditioners, refrigerators, clothes washers and dryers, and other home appliances.

Wind and solar energy is the best thing that ever happened to the natural gas industry.

Unfortunately there is enough cheap, extractable gas in the ground to destroy the world as we know it.

It is renewable SCantiGOP Jun 2019 #1
Thousands of centuries, actually, although this said, the Boudouard Reaction makes something... NNadir Jun 2019 #2
Wait a sec... HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #3
Yes. That is precisely what I'm saying. NNadir Jun 2019 #4
"roughly 35 billion tons of CO2 per year" angstlessk Jun 2019 #6
Seriously? HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #7
Look, there's lots of evidence for the uselessness of the wind industry. NNadir Jun 2019 #8
I noticed HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #9
In general, what one can derive from text, whether written or verbal, derives from... NNadir Jun 2019 #13
Wow, now that is a proper burn! HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #19
Here's what FactCheck says about the life-cycle carbon footprint of wind energy. Jim__ Jun 2019 #10
That chart neglects the commitment to natural gas each kilowatt of wind or solar power represents. hunter Jun 2019 #12
The obverse of your claim is that every kilowatt of electricity generated by wind power ... Jim__ Jun 2019 #15
It's feel good nonsense. Like a smoker cutting down from a pack-a-day habit... hunter Jun 2019 #16
Wrong analogy. It's much more like breathing polluted air. Every breath is bad for you. Jim__ Jun 2019 #17
Zing. Yet another wind power supporter conflates air pollution and climate change. hunter Jun 2019 #18
I no more conflated climate change with air pollution than you conflated it with smoking cigarettes. Jim__ Jun 2019 #20
No it's not. People insist on viewing wind turbines as progress... hunter Jun 2019 #21
And shadowmayor Jun 2019 #5
Nnadir, you are grinding that axe just a little too hard. Nitram Jun 2019 #11
I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm grinding it hard enough. NNadir Jun 2019 #14
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