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hunter

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21. No it's not. People insist on viewing wind turbines as progress...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jun 2019

... the same way people used to view smokestacks as progress.

I don't see wind turbines littering the hillsides or seascapes as progress, I see them as greenwash for the filthy natural gas industry.

My smoking analogy is a good one.

We're building wind turbines for an industrial economy powered mostly by natural gas, and worse, we're promoting that as a good thing.

Well, yeah, it's better than coal.

But it is equivalent to a heavy smoker cutting back on their own smoking while promoting their own reduced smoking habit to non-smokers.

NOT smoking in the first place is always going to be the healthier option.

NOT burning fossil fuels is always going to be the healthier option for the earth's environment and all the sentient, intelligent beings who live here, not just humans.

Unfortunately it's always a hard sell telling people their work ethics and "productivity" are not making the world a better place, and that we'd all be better off if they just stayed home and read a book, watched some birds, or took an art class.

It's especially difficult selling it to people promoting the "lite" version of our high energy industrial consumer economy.


It is renewable SCantiGOP Jun 2019 #1
Thousands of centuries, actually, although this said, the Boudouard Reaction makes something... NNadir Jun 2019 #2
Wait a sec... HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #3
Yes. That is precisely what I'm saying. NNadir Jun 2019 #4
"roughly 35 billion tons of CO2 per year" angstlessk Jun 2019 #6
Seriously? HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #7
Look, there's lots of evidence for the uselessness of the wind industry. NNadir Jun 2019 #8
I noticed HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #9
In general, what one can derive from text, whether written or verbal, derives from... NNadir Jun 2019 #13
Wow, now that is a proper burn! HuskyOffset Jun 2019 #19
Here's what FactCheck says about the life-cycle carbon footprint of wind energy. Jim__ Jun 2019 #10
That chart neglects the commitment to natural gas each kilowatt of wind or solar power represents. hunter Jun 2019 #12
The obverse of your claim is that every kilowatt of electricity generated by wind power ... Jim__ Jun 2019 #15
It's feel good nonsense. Like a smoker cutting down from a pack-a-day habit... hunter Jun 2019 #16
Wrong analogy. It's much more like breathing polluted air. Every breath is bad for you. Jim__ Jun 2019 #17
Zing. Yet another wind power supporter conflates air pollution and climate change. hunter Jun 2019 #18
I no more conflated climate change with air pollution than you conflated it with smoking cigarettes. Jim__ Jun 2019 #20
No it's not. People insist on viewing wind turbines as progress... hunter Jun 2019 #21
And shadowmayor Jun 2019 #5
Nnadir, you are grinding that axe just a little too hard. Nitram Jun 2019 #11
I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm grinding it hard enough. NNadir Jun 2019 #14
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