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TIME TO PANIC

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38. A vote for Hillary is a vote to take single-payer off the table for at least eight years.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jan 2016

Think about all the lives that will continue to be lost, because health care is still unaffordable.

K&R..... daleanime Jan 2016 #1
Stay uninsured liberalmike27 Jan 2016 #162
I would rather have health care then insurance..... daleanime Jan 2016 #163
Amen. I found her to be annoying before this. I find her straight up dangerous since. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #2
Me too. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #76
and despite donalds problems PatrynXX Jan 2016 #112
She has no interest in ordinary people Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #160
You're right, maybe Sanders shouldn't have proffered unicorns from his single payer pledge and then uponit7771 Jan 2016 #3
Jaysus, try reading cali Jan 2016 #7
He doesn't do reading. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #18
Hillary: "Affordable health care is a basic human right." Hortensis Jan 2016 #48
Good post, but The Green Manalishi Jan 2016 #130
Hillary Clinton is committed to UNIVERSAL healthcare. Hortensis Jan 2016 #148
As I've said all along, I'll support the Democratic candidate The Green Manalishi Jan 2016 #157
Who doesn't?! uponit7771 Jan 2016 #140
Straight outta fox news those words are Lordquinton Jan 2016 #21
Can't point out the part that's false, that's ok... we don't have to talk about facts and stuff uponit7771 Jan 2016 #66
Unicorns are factual now? Lordquinton Jan 2016 #135
LOL! cui bono Jan 2016 #138
+1000. The worst thing to happen to single payer would be a failure to get it passed. baldguy Jan 2016 #99
Scalia warned us, if we legalized teh Gay Marriage before long people would be proffering unicorns Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #109
Yeah it's sick ablamj Jan 2016 #114
I've changed it to magical asterisks .. unicorns is too touchy for people uponit7771 Jan 2016 #139
The conservative Democrats lied to us. They said that we couldn't ask for more, that we rhett o rick Jan 2016 #136
No one told anyone that, people should stop believing everything they hear from FAUX news uponit7771 Jan 2016 #141
That and a still inadequate regulatory regimen mmonk Jan 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #52
Hillary was for single-payer, before she was against it. Now 20 years later "It's just too hard" nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #5
"It's just too hard" ...like breaking up Wall Street R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #40
... and then she has the audacity to instruct us to vote Jackilope Jan 2016 #129
I remember a time when we aspired to do things in this country because they were hard... avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #133
+10 nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #134
^^^ K&R for this post alone. Should be an OP. Thanks. ^^^ Hiraeth Jan 2016 #158
She needs to change her tune HassleCat Jan 2016 #6
K&R. Clinton is sending Single Payer backward. That's unforgivable. Auggie Jan 2016 #8
NO. This ISN'T THE TIME for that battle. Hortensis Jan 2016 #49
Not good at multitasking? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #56
Have to do both, and now. The HC costs for average citizens is outrageous and we dont have to randys1 Jan 2016 #57
+1 Auggie Jan 2016 #85
Keep stocking up on dry powder Paulie Jan 2016 #98
The ACA is not sustainable in the long run. jeff47 Jan 2016 #122
Yes, the ACA will continue to be improved. Hortensis Jan 2016 #149
There Will Be NO Getting Money Out Of Politics If She's ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #128
It isn't up to our bought and paid for "Leaders" it is up to US. It is time the democratic "leaders" Vincardog Jan 2016 #9
Anyone paying attention knew this was going to happen. TM99 Jan 2016 #10
I think you are wrong passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #58
No, some of us did predict that TM99 Jan 2016 #63
I'm not talking about ACA passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #67
I would argue it is a combination then. TM99 Jan 2016 #71
There will always be private insurance companies. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #78
Yes, now we are in agreement. TM99 Jan 2016 #90
This alone should galvanize us to BEAT her NOW. If she wins the damage will be done. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #11
Even if she doesn't win she will have caused huge damage pangaia Jan 2016 #33
"Apparatchiks" lol Quote of the day pinebox Jan 2016 #12
I'll share this EVERY SINGLE CHANCE I GET! pinebox Jan 2016 #13
THIS should be EVERYWHERE!! pangaia Jan 2016 #35
"Shame on ANY DEM who attacks single-payer." arcane1 Jan 2016 #51
She never once mentioned single payer in that vid dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #145
Great point! arcane1 Jan 2016 #161
+1 million n/t geardaddy Jan 2016 #59
Oh my. Stryder Jan 2016 #70
Thanks, pinebox. Duval Jan 2016 #79
"Shame On You, Hillary" Jackilope Jan 2016 #131
another extremely prominent DC democrat killed that off 7 years ago nt msongs Jan 2016 #14
Mr. Pop speaks the truth. Indepatriot Jan 2016 #15
+1 geardaddy Jan 2016 #61
It's always nice to have an advance excuse for your failure. brooklynite Jan 2016 #16
That is puerile nonsense cali Jan 2016 #17
Okay, try this... brooklynite Jan 2016 #20
Krugman is being pretty disingenuous... ymetca Jan 2016 #23
Good read! bvf Jan 2016 #73
Excellent article! Krugman is flat out lying. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #86
"No, We Can't!" mhatrw Jan 2016 #27
We have been fighting for single-payer for more than 80 years. jeff47 Jan 2016 #29
If by 'we', you mean America in general, I disagree. randome Jan 2016 #42
Because if you don't personally see it, it never happened, right? jeff47 Jan 2016 #47
That's the spin they put on it. zeemike Jan 2016 #50
Medicare needs a lot of improvement for it to work as single payer passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #64
Affordability is the first issue. zeemike Jan 2016 #75
T totally agree with everything you've said here. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #84
No I could defiantly benefit from them. zeemike Jan 2016 #108
Let's get Bernie into office and see where that takes us! passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #116
Absolutely. zeemike Jan 2016 #121
Krugman is an establishment insider. n/t passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #60
I have added Krugman to my personal enemies list. Any single payer nay sayer gets to join. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #80
Krugman admits that Medicare for All is the best solution. He just doesn't think it worth fight for. Agony Jan 2016 #107
Really strange that an economist has jackshit to say about the ECONOMICS of single payer eridani Jan 2016 #142
More of the same from Clinton. democrank Jan 2016 #19
It ain't workin' on me. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #87
I think the lack of specificity by the Sanders campaign is causing the real damage. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #22
There is plenty of specificity. There is a real plan. It is the lies that are doing the damage. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #88
Have you looked at the plan? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #96
I found that plan you were looking for Renew Deal Jan 2016 #120
You are looking for it, not me. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #152
Single payer will never get through Congress. It's a pipe dream to think Bernie can beaglelover Jan 2016 #24
"No, We Can't!" mhatrw Jan 2016 #26
Everytime one of them oozes into my view - COMPLETE IGNORE! Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #34
good job! hopemountain Jan 2016 #94
Their "can't do" attitude is getting rather annoying Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #101
Two or three of the worst have gone missing lately. Paka Jan 2016 #115
What ticks me off is even if they are on ignore you still see their OPS Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #155
The ACA ymetca Jan 2016 #30
Except fund all my treatment for multiple sclerosis shenmue Jan 2016 #97
I am so happy to hear that the ACA has helped you. I, too have a riversedge Jan 2016 #153
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jan 2016 #150
Never, no, can't do it.... pangaia Jan 2016 #37
It will never Old Codger Jan 2016 #43
Yeah - all we need is some duct tape, a bit of imaginative sleight-of-hand Plucketeer Jan 2016 #82
There is a special circle of hell reserved for Hillary and all of her "No, We Can't" shills. mhatrw Jan 2016 #25
Huge +1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #89
She's also the type to put the ACA on the table for a trade deal. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #28
And her campaign and supporters are starting to sound like Republicans Prism Jan 2016 #31
Starting??? Old Codger Jan 2016 #45
I wish I could rec this MuseRider Jan 2016 #32
Any damage that has been done is Bernie's fault for not presenting a remotely realistic plan. DanTex Jan 2016 #36
A vote for Hillary is a vote to take single-payer off the table for at least eight years. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #38
She is selfish, arrogant, and entitled. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #39
We will have Single Payer...Hillary is off the rails. That is a Democratic Foundation. libdem4life Jan 2016 #41
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #91
I think the opposite is true oberliner Jan 2016 #44
hillary is weak and phony hopemountain Jan 2016 #46
+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #92
Very good point. Well spoken. nt Francis Booth Jan 2016 #53
And she is just getting started with her shit slinging. morningfog Jan 2016 #54
Reality check. Beacool Jan 2016 #55
We don't care about another fake assed organization like the Kaiser Family Foundation. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #93
yes, fake as in 'controlled by the establishment' hopemountain Jan 2016 #104
no we can't no we can't no we can't Armstead Jan 2016 #102
So lets just give up tularetom Jan 2016 #105
We can't get there Mnpaul Jan 2016 #111
The Republicons biggest fear about "Obamacare" Utopian Leftist Jan 2016 #62
That is what they want PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #65
do you think this can be done without Dems controlling BOTH the House and Senate? Bill USA Jan 2016 #68
I think the opposite. Sanders' insistence that the ACA must now be replaced pnwmom Jan 2016 #69
K&R and I fear for what else she'd throw under the bus that will hurt us. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #72
I'm not about to accept the ACA as the final evolution of this health care system. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #74
Yep Third Way Oligarchs -- like Krugman and Klein -- have no idea of what they speak. Hoyt Jan 2016 #77
No we can't no we can't no we can't no we can't no we can't no we can't Armstead Jan 2016 #100
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #81
I'm not sure it's the absolute worst thing, but it's pretty bad. K and R Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #83
Kicked and recommended a bazillion times! Because fuck this shit! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #95
K & R n/t TubbersUK Jan 2016 #103
Even if we reach for single-payer, and all we get is... Beartracks Jan 2016 #106
K&R Paka Jan 2016 #110
No, her ignoble quest for president emsimon33 Jan 2016 #113
Ignoble quest???? Beacool Jan 2016 #117
Also, "doing away with the insurance companies would tarnish Obama's legacy" Doctor_J Jan 2016 #118
The worst thing is Hillary felt the need to run another shitty campaign. morningfog Jan 2016 #119
The worst thing is Hillary felt the need to run at all. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #123
True. And a leopard can't change its stripes. morningfog Jan 2016 #124
Ha! Ha! Ha! Good one! DrBulldog Jan 2016 #126
The slogan "No, we can't" coming from the Clinton campaign is horrible for our nation. DrBulldog Jan 2016 #125
As Each Day Goes By, My Feelings About Her Plummet More... ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #127
Exactly how I feel as well. sammythecat Jan 2016 #147
Don't blame me. I told you already Hillary is disingenuous. avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #132
How about the huge long-term damage done to Democrats up and down the ticket by.... George II Jan 2016 #137
Leave it to the Democrats and Republicans and you will never see single payer. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2016 #143
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #144
K & R, I don't think it's the worst thing, but it IS terrible dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #146
I started out really supporting her, but now I've gone the other way. The more I see and hear RKP5637 Jan 2016 #151
Wow, we almost agree on this, Amimnoch Jan 2016 #154
k & r!!!!!!!!!!!!! marble falls Jan 2016 #156
$250,000 per hour is fine for her and Bill but she thinks $15 per hour is too much for you and me. Skeeter Barnes Jan 2016 #159
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