2016 Postmortem

pnwmom

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24. Hillary has plenty of experience in the Senate where, unlike Bernie,

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:47 AM

Jan 2016

she got a number of bills passed. Not just amendments to someone else's bills.

And Hillary lost the vote to Obama by less than one percent. A vote that close doesn't tag her as a loser. If Bernie felt that way, he wouldn't have kept running and running till he finally won an election in VT.

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5 ways your money could be affected by a Bernie Sanders presidency [View all] Live and Learn Jan 2016 OP

K&R nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #1

wow, and they didn't even try to spin it retrowire Jan 2016 #2

Yep, I was hesitant to read it but it was a nice surprise. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #7

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #3

Thank you, Uncle Joe. Always love your threads. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #8

We currently pay $3.8Trillion for healthcare TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #4

Yep and Hillary thinks that is good enough. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #12

So let's keep doing it!!! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #25

Nonsense. We would need to control both houses of Congress, the Senate pnwmom Jan 2016 #5

So we should just give up. Lordquinton Jan 2016 #6

No. But we shouldn't delude ourselves with pie in the sky visions. pnwmom Jan 2016 #9

I remember when you thought Bernie didn't stand a chance. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #11

I agree with Kasish that they would crush him in the general. pnwmom Jan 2016 #17

It won't. He's already doing well in both Nevada and South Carolina. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #18

He's doing well in South Carolina? By what measure? pnwmom Jan 2016 #20

I have some pretty good measures but we'll save them for later. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #21

He would need actual voters and there's no indication he has them. pnwmom Jan 2016 #22

Don't worry, he will have them. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #23

I'm not worried. He won't win S.C. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #26

We'll see. Do yourself a favor though and don't place any bets on it. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #29

I never saw so many praying for failure like some are doing now. No one roguevalley Jan 2016 #31

So true. I really hate the Can't Do campaign. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #34

There is nothing Pie in the sky about Bernie's plans Lordquinton Jan 2016 #16

Hillary has plenty of experience in the Senate where, unlike Bernie, pnwmom Jan 2016 #24

yes it did. she lost. I do believe she wasn't president for the last eight years roguevalley Jan 2016 #32

How many elections did Bernie lose before he finally got elected to something? pnwmom Jan 2016 #36

1? And he had no coattails to ride on, unlike Hillary. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #39

I believe Bill would not have achieved what he did without her pnwmom Jan 2016 #40

So you don't? Live and Learn Jan 2016 #41

You either never learned history or you've forgotten what the situation pnwmom Jan 2016 #42

Bill did steer the country out of an economic mess but at the expense of the poor and Live and Learn Jan 2016 #43

You go ahead. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #27

So instead you and Hillary just give up. Can't do or just won't even try? nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #10

Did Obama give up? No -- but he brought about positive, progressive change, pnwmom Jan 2016 #13

Obama had a majority in Congress and still could only come up with an insurance companies dream Live and Learn Jan 2016 #14

Obama accomplished a lot more than Sanders will with his refusal to compromise pnwmom Jan 2016 #37

We'll see in 2024. Betting you are wrong. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #38

He gave up as soon as he was elected. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #28

He wasn't counting on Ted Kennedy dying. When he died and was replaced pnwmom Jan 2016 #44

What eliminated the possibility of a public option Kall Jan 2016 #45

They were planning on modifying it in conference, but they couldn't do that pnwmom Jan 2016 #46

Yeah, sure they were Kall Jan 2016 #47

That's the opposite of what I said. Joe Lieberman's state of CT is the pnwmom Jan 2016 #48

Then vote for John Kasich Kall Jan 2016 #15

+1000 nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #19

If you think Bernie can't get shit done because of whatever reason what makes roguevalley Jan 2016 #33

Responding to the wrong post, I think. But your post is spot on. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #35

K&R emsimon33 Jan 2016 #30