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23. don't try and play me for a fool
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:36 AM
Jan 2016

...the entire movement behind Bernie Sanders has nothing but contempt for the Democratic establishment. Here at DU the animus is so rabid that even the progressive caucus was treated like pariahs for endorsing someone other than Sanders.

If Bernie Sanders and his crew can make leaps of judgment to envelop and declare anything associated with Hillary 'establishment,' and a target for his revolution, we can certainly justify making our defense just as broad-based.

What Sanders and his supporters want is to roll over anyone in our party not aboard his political revolution, and the rhetoric is becoming reactionary and intolerant of dissent, like the way most partisan revolutions devolve. No one in our party unassociated with all of that has to put up with any of it.

You want to talk dishonest? Take a long look at that denial of yours. Sanders' epic pout at not being chosen by PP and HRC has no intrinsic value to anyone, save his own campaign. It's not only weak, it's a cynical and self-serving exercise which has zero to do with any of the needs and concerns of Americans.

kick bigtree Jan 2016 #1
Paul Krugman on this: HOW CHANGE HAPPENS. Hortensis Jan 2016 #8
I like this article bigtree Jan 2016 #10
I think you're right about that one. Hortensis Jan 2016 #12
Oh sure, he's so bossy. senz Jan 2016 #17
You don't recognize the reference to Christ driving the money-changers from the Temple? Hekate Jan 2016 #21
Nah, didn't, this time. I may have a couple of months ago when I saw it in the New Yorker. senz Jan 2016 #24
Oh the precious wailings of the privileged straights. So sick of this bullcrap. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #2
This straight poster has had this explained to him Prism Jan 2016 #4
you do realize that there are LGBT individuals associated with HRC bigtree Jan 2016 #6
Just keep talking, man. Prism Jan 2016 #11
you keep reading bigtree Jan 2016 #13
I'm not privileged or sheltered bigtree Jan 2016 #5
+1. FSogol Jan 2016 #29
. bigtree Jan 2016 #32
Despite being the youngest candidate, O'Malley certainly is the wisest. FSogol Jan 2016 #33
You don't speak for LGBT members such as myself. Metric System Jan 2016 #19
Did you reference F. A. Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" and William F. Buckley when writing this? nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #3
what are you talking about? bigtree Jan 2016 #7
"Some of these groups are, in fact, a part of the establishment." NCTraveler Jan 2016 #9
Yeap, kicking at PP and HRC isn't ....... progressive at all uponit7771 Jan 2016 #16
kick bigtree Jan 2016 #14
kick bigtree Jan 2016 #15
Bernie is NOT "waging a revolution against the Democratic establishment." senz Jan 2016 #18
Then why does he keep saying he is? Did he bring his own straw man with him? Hekate Jan 2016 #22
He has never said he's waging a revolution against the Democratic establishment. senz Jan 2016 #25
don't try and play me for a fool bigtree Jan 2016 #23
Oh for Pete's sake. senz Jan 2016 #26
you're so caught up in amusing yourself bigtree Jan 2016 #27
Like I said, Bernie's target is NOT the Democratic Party. senz Jan 2016 #28
KnR. Collective efforts. Cooperation. Alliances. Compromise with allies on common goals.... Hekate Jan 2016 #20
K&R. n/t FSogol Jan 2016 #30
This dissing of PP & HRC is consistant with Sanders wanting to primary Obama riversedge Jan 2016 #31
You know that's a falsehood. You know it. senz Jan 2016 #34
Well, I do not believe you. riversedge Jan 2016 #35
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