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Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:38 PM

25. Right. First off, "manhattan projects" are by definition huge and expensive. Two, "collaboration"

implies a willingness for both parties to work together- The tech industry has been consistent and clear that there is NO mathematical way to create a backdoor or otherwise weaken encryption so that only "good guys" can get in (leaving aside, of course, that every fucking time we are sold a bill of goods about law enforcement needing 'special tools to fight terror' the terror fighting almost immediately goes by the wayside and the special tools are used to go after people like small time drug criminals) so the idea that there is going to be "collaboration" on this- at least, without sticking backdoors in, which is BY DEFINITION breaking encryption- is not just ludicrous, it's flat-out fucking impossible.

And in the meantime, all this authoritarian-appeasing talk about "we must do something about encryption" is damaging the economy, because not just American businesses but our customers overseas have watched these conversations, and they DEPEND on American products and their built in encryption to protect their data against shit like industrial espionage. Fuck, every time you log into your credit card's website, you're using encryption. We WANT encryption to be strong, and we don't want to think that there is a built in weakness waiting for malicious actors to discover and exploit it.

Silicon Valley's resistance to talk from people who clearly don't understand the topic is not just some tech-libertarian philosophical pose, it is a meat and potatoes business decision. Encryption, the math, the concepts, all of it- is out there and it is not going away. Silicon Valley wants to SELL products to the world that the world will reliably believe are genuinely secure and not compromised out of the box.

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