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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
36. "Safe, legal, and RARE" -- Hillary Clinton.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

This has been a bit of an odd fight for HRC to pick. Other than her close ties to Wall Street and her support of the Iraq war, I think her most substantive deficiency as a progressive has been her triangulation on abortion rights and gay rights.

Her adoption of the anti-abortion position that we should be just as concerned with making abortion "rare" as with ensuring safe, legal access, always struck me as a politically calculated betrayal. It's along the same lines as her other fudges, delays, and silences on human rights. Marriage equality leaps to mind. Remember that odd non-answer about how she never changed her mind, but rather the country "evolved" or something?

To me, Hillary follows this same pattern of trying to be as safe as possible first, then backfilling once something has already been decided. I do not see how she can claim to be the real "champion" when her pattern is to equivocate first, never push for anything not already well supported, then speak up loudly when the fight is over (and claim she never changed her thinking in the process).

Which results in this precise kind of undermining.

"Safe, legal, and rare?"

This is the best "champion" we have for women's reproductive freedoms?

I'm sorry, but that just is not her style. Champions stick their necks out.

Bernie is no champion for woman rights. You know his mad. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #1
Evidently NARAL was in error giving him a 100% then Fumesucker Jan 2016 #4
Prove it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #5
Cali_D did it for me below. :). Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #7
No he didn't. When you make a claim you should back it up. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #9
So, are you going to accept my apology or not. I've asked you thrice now. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #11
I have no idea what you're talking about. Apology for what? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #12
Here's the link ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #13
Oh, didn't see that. It's fine, no worries. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #17
Thank you. You are a good person. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #20
And another ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #14
false statement wendylaroux Jan 2016 #22
There's a difference between an ally and a champion Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #2
OFFS Fawke Em Jan 2016 #24
+1...nt SidDithers Jan 2016 #46
It's nitpicking by a DNC spokesperson who should not take sides. Makes me furious. madfloridian Jan 2016 #50
Hanson is also a DNC press Secretary. NARAL and DNC twined together Arazi Jan 2016 #55
I agree. Bernie has always been there on abortion rights. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #3
As I recall.... CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #6
Yup, I think it was Rachel Maddow's show and he was R B Garr Jan 2016 #19
No Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #42
Wrong, that's not what he said on Rachel's show. R B Garr Jan 2016 #56
Horseshit Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #58
Horseshit yourself. Look at Rachel's show. R B Garr Jan 2016 #59
I did watch it Lage Nom Ai Jan 2016 #67
Uh huh. R B Garr Jan 2016 #68
All over one word... Fumesucker Jan 2016 #8
"They aligned themselves with democrats"... Agschmid Jan 2016 #10
this is as bad as the voting with the vagina schtick. did not think that the tone deaf crap bettyellen Jan 2016 #57
It's a sickening fact. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #15
Women's rights no longer seem to be their top priority. Broward Jan 2016 #16
Yes, there seem to be political priorities now. madfloridian Jan 2016 #18
It is incredibly stupid for both groups to have acted the way they have. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #21
A 100% voting record does not necessarily mean a Senator is a "champion" for anything Empowerer Jan 2016 #23
RIght, voting to protect rights for 40 years doesn't mean anything... onecaliberal Jan 2016 #27
Did I say it doesn't mean anything? Empowerer Jan 2016 #29
Yeah you did. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #47
Especially loyalsister Jan 2016 #64
Yes. moondust Jan 2016 #25
Bernie still thinks the Anti-Roe v Wade HYDE Amendment misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #26
What are you talking about? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #28
what are you talking about? misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #30
Like I said he's been opposing it for decades, he called for its repeal. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #31
Direct quote, please? merrily Jan 2016 #33
He just called for repealing it. You need to provide proof of your words. madfloridian Jan 2016 #38
Where's your proof for that claim? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #54
I've been following politics since I campaigned for JFK....this was the biggest TRUMPed up charge Peregrine Took Jan 2016 #32
"It's utterly inane." kristopher Jan 2016 #34
lol no i did not forget an s. look it up. madfloridian Jan 2016 #35
"Safe, legal, and RARE" -- Hillary Clinton. DirkGently Jan 2016 #36
Fer fuck's sake. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #61
Well, no. "Rare" is stigmatizing rightwing framing. DirkGently Jan 2016 #65
From one of your cited articles ... NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #66
Their champion: "Clinton Seeking Shared Ground Over Abortions" beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #37
Thanks, bmus. Didn't know she played politics EVEN WITH WOMEN'S RIGHTS. senz Jan 2016 #60
And one of the items mentioned in the event at Duluth MN jwirr Jan 2016 #39
This is only the beginning. Bernie is actually challenging the establishment. salib Jan 2016 #40
Especially the DLC, who are afraid of Bernie's position, which is Duval Jan 2016 #41
LOL.. No one's afraid of bernie. misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #43
It has been an uphill battle so far. salib Jan 2016 #49
whaddya do if the candidate sucks up to The Family? accuse Sanders MisterP Jan 2016 #44
Kicking for the insanity... FloriTexan Jan 2016 #45
And also inane. madfloridian Jan 2016 #48
This whole primary has been crazy. madfloridian Jan 2016 #51
Not Good Enough Bernie!! neverforget Jan 2016 #52
That's exactly what's being done. madfloridian Jan 2016 #53
Um....his writings on women squicked me out. Maybe they read what he wrote. nt msanthrope Jan 2016 #62
That's Bernie's fault for not having a 200% rating from them. Not good enough, Bernie! jfern Jan 2016 #63
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