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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What Hillary supporters don't understand [View all]Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)277. There was plenty of outrage here against both Rice and Powell
But you knew that.
Or maybe you didn't.
I doubt that many people at the time were aware that they were using unsecured e-mail servers.
I certainly didn't.
But I knew that Powell was lying his ass off at the UN when he was shaking that vial full of pretend-anthrax to shill for Bush's war.
And Condi was probably the least qualified Secretary of State ever. A "Russian scholar" who didn't even know the language. A national security advisor who claimed that no one could have foretold the 911 attacks, even though warnings had been issued in a security briefing more than a month beforehand.
If it had been known at the time that they were using unsecured e-mail servers, there would have been plenty of outrage here.
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." Wow!
TryLogic
Jan 2016
#85
That 29% number has been around for quite a few months, you better have them do a new poll.
A Simple Game
Jan 2016
#121
If HIllary wins the nomination the exodus (apathy) will begin before the GE
Ferd Berfel
Jan 2016
#141
Nader's "there is no difference" is becoming closer to being true every year. n/t
A Simple Game
Jan 2016
#240
Well said! I'm a Vermonter, we always vote for the person, not the party.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#4
Well said. And I wish we had ways to get progressives on the coattails in November.
lostnfound
Jan 2016
#8
You can ignore it all you want but we have a candidate under an FBI investigation. Think about that.
pinebox
Jan 2016
#139
Im sure everyone with high level access to sensitive information is required to sign an NDA
DCBob
Jan 2016
#189
The vote, yes. It was mistake but I ultimately only blame the Bush/Cheney admin for Iraq.
DCBob
Jan 2016
#191
A war that HRC may have voted for; but, Bernie voted to fund ... repeatedly.
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#62
Yeah, it really sucks you can't attack him for starving the troops in a war zone. (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2016
#283
My "strategy" has nothing to do with the rise of the Republicans in this country.
DCBob
Jan 2016
#78
More Democrats will vote for him in the General than HRC. More Republicans will vote for him
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#196
I think the AA voterss will support Sanders and as least vote against Trump. Also, I think
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#218
Any Dem Center, Right or Left who stays home and allows a Repub to win is a complete fucking idiot
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jan 2016
#105
Anyone claiming to be a Dem and stays home is allowing their values to be usurped....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Feb 2016
#253
plenty of people don't like Barney either--he's abrasive out of habit, not principle
zazen
Jan 2016
#252
Bernie is liked by African American voters - where do you get the notion that he isn't?
reformist2
Jan 2016
#39
Nonsense. I support Sanders because of policy, as do others. There is a definite cult of personality
WIProgressive88
Feb 2016
#259
The Majority Party in this country is Independent or Unaffiliated at 43% of the electorate
FreakinDJ
Jan 2016
#55
Really? Shocking, actually, but it makes sense what with horrendous voter turnout
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#67
I've heard this and see its veracity, now if they will just come out and vote.
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#80
I hear stories of republicans, greens, libertarians, independents switching to Bernie all the time
californiabernin
Jan 2016
#66
Just last week I had a short talk with a young woman Republican at a Dutch Bros. coffee stand
cascadiance
Jan 2016
#163
Very well-said Pinebox. Bernie is much more than a serious candidate for the Presidency
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#69
“I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat,” Bernie Sanders
workinclasszero
Jan 2016
#106
Better than being the Sugar Daddy for the 1% and promising so many gifts to them...
cascadiance
Jan 2016
#176
Great so the Bernie fans need to stop the horseshit about how much they love the democratic party
workinclasszero
Jan 2016
#129
And WHY do you "Love the Democratic Party" which you claim Bernie and his followers can't...
cascadiance
Jan 2016
#180
I see the problem. You believe that op-eds constitute "proof". (hint: it does not) nt
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2016
#288
There's another side to this that the Hillary supporters really do not understand.
SheilaT
Jan 2016
#87
Well, nobody in the establishment is going to be cool with this post, but I'm supporting Bernie
PatrickforO
Jan 2016
#104
I understand, by my opinion of who will win in the general differs from yours
Politicub
Jan 2016
#144
The Medicaid expansion is problematic - we can thank the poor language in the policy
Politicub
Jan 2016
#166
What Bernie supporters don't understand is that we understand this very well....
Hekate
Jan 2016
#207
Please, I've live through cancer four times, lost everything I owned twice but...
Walk away
Feb 2016
#293
Encouraging people to spend wisely and pay their bills is not being a Libertarian.
Walk away
Feb 2016
#295
Sanders can do all of that and not proffer Pixy Dust Politics (tm). My issue right now is the
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#255
Not really, not any more ... not after that weak SP plan that doesn't outline how he's going to MAKE
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#264
I believe revolution with asterisks aren't revolutions, just good marketing... I've never responded
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#266
We understand all the things you think and all the assumptions you have made. You are wrong. nt
stevenleser
Feb 2016
#281
I just switched my registration from independent so I could vote for Bernie. nt
nichomachus
Feb 2016
#286