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pnwmom

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10. The 6 coin tosses did not change the overall outcome. They were associated with "county delegates"
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

not "state delegates."



http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/


It happened in precinct 2-4 in Ames, where supporters of candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton disputed the results after 60 caucus participants apparently disappeared from the proceedings.

As a result of the coin toss, Clinton was awarded an additional delegate, meaning she took five of the precinct’s eight, while Sanders received three.

Similar situations played out at various precincts across the state, but had an extremely small effect on the overall outcome, in which Clinton won 49.9 percent of statewide delegate equivalents, while Sanders won 49.5 percent. The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party's county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results.

The statewide delegate equivalents that determine the outcome on caucus night are derived from the county-level delegates, but are aggregated across the state and weighted in a manner that makes individual county delegate selections at a handful of precincts count for a tiny fraction of the ultimate result.
Ron Paul is a very apt analogy for Bernie Sanders. DanTex Feb 2016 #1
The insurgents are at the citadel gates as Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #2
Good answer! DanTex Feb 2016 #3
Are you really pretending that she got no delegates from those 6 coin tosses? Autumn Feb 2016 #4
Not enough to sway the overall result. Are you pretending she did? DanTex Feb 2016 #5
Since I can do math I don't have to pretend. Autumn Feb 2016 #6
Aha, yet another misinformed Bernie fan. You are aware that the delegates assigned DanTex Feb 2016 #7
You are still pretending she got no delegates from her coin tosses. Autumn Feb 2016 #13
She got some, just not enough to make a difference in the outcome. DanTex Feb 2016 #17
That was my point, she got delegates from the coin tosses. nt Autumn Feb 2016 #21
Bernie did too. But however the coin tosses turned out, Hillary would have still won. DanTex Feb 2016 #22
I don't dispute her win. nt Autumn Feb 2016 #23
Some people are better at arithmetic than reading. pnwmom Feb 2016 #14
6 out of 11,065. LOL. even the six is being disputed. bettyellen Feb 2016 #9
Those were county delegates, not the state delegates that determined the outcome. pnwmom Feb 2016 #11
the six were out of 11,065 local delegates for fucks sake. truly negligible. bettyellen Feb 2016 #8
The 6 coin tosses did not change the overall outcome. They were associated with "county delegates" pnwmom Feb 2016 #10
As Sanders campaign manager said... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #16
They're just trying to make Democrats suspicious about the outcome. pnwmom Feb 2016 #24
Not a chance. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #12
Hillary didn't win by coin toss. The information is now all over GD/P, including a post by Skinner alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #15
Yes, Ron Paul would still be dismissed as a fringe candidate Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #18
But Sanders isn't. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #25
Hillary Clinton won an extremely close race. Everything else is commentary. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #19
Bernie didn't lose by a half dozen coin tosses dbackjon Feb 2016 #20
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