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JDPriestly

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44. FrenchieCat, good to have you back.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

Conscientious objectors are the best qualified to know when war is unavoidable.

My dad was a conscientious objector. He was dedicated to peace as are most conscientious objectors. War was not a game to him.

You know why?

It was the Korean War. He was a minister in a small, midwestern parish. It fell to him to comfort and pray with the families of the fallen. He not only did that in the Korean War, but also throughout WWII.

Conscientious objectors are the right people to decide on what wars must and must not be fought.

Conscientious objectors are often better informed about the human costs of war than other people.

On edit, I have to add that in the excitement of war times, we forget that war, when all is said and done, and when the battle is over, is about GRIEF.

War is just about grief. The grief of not being able to resolve conflict without killing. The grief of losing a family member or a friend. The grief of homeless people. The grief of staggering about in rubble. The grief. That's what war is about, and we forget it at our peril.

Anyway, good to have you back FrenchiCat. Maybe you have teen here all along and I just didn't see your posts. Anyway . . . .

Hope you stick around.

I normally don't love stuff from the Orange site, but that was a really good piece. Worth reading. MADem Feb 2016 #1
It's just SO damn orange though Recursion Feb 2016 #2
Great hair, Recursion. How about, "Hillary is Hortensis Feb 2016 #30
Clinton has solid leads with women, non white poor, blacks, Hispanics I believe in part because... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #3
When you speak of where this stuff eminates, be sure to include assholes... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #16
I'm talking about Sanders himself, not just his associates affliates and proxies. The whole bank uponit7771 Feb 2016 #31
You're taking about this... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #50
Exactly, us Sanders supporters see obvious issues with Hillary like her corporate friendly campaign. JRLeft Feb 2016 #55
a very good read, By dhonig- worth reading. Why I wish Sanders & Clinton would Team up. Sunlei Feb 2016 #4
the excerpt posted here made me chuckle Dem2 Feb 2016 #5
K&R! betsuni Feb 2016 #6
Just read it. californiabernin Feb 2016 #7
None of the answers address the Sanders supporters' concerns: Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #8
Thank you for your excellent post. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #9
Your possibly... MrWendel Feb 2016 #10
Total experience in politics besides being a first lady. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #20
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Feb 2016 #45
Ok. So I forgot her forgettable job as a SoS Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #46
She worked with H2O Man Feb 2016 #47
Are you sure you want to include that in her resume? Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #48
Yep. H2O Man Feb 2016 #49
You're chastened by the memory of Thatcher, Bad Dog Feb 2016 #12
I noticed that too! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #13
8 years in the White House Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #22
She did the healthcare proposal while there, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #23
HillaryCare went over like a warmed over butter. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #42
Priestley makes a good point about funding. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #29
Her experience as a lawyer at Walmart is fair game then too... Armymedic88 Feb 2016 #27
Her experience as secretary of state -- pushing H1-B visas which take jobs JDPriestly Feb 2016 #43
Bernie has experience being on the right side of history. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #18
That nails it -- the right side of history Armstead Feb 2016 #24
What is... MrWendel Feb 2016 #11
You'll have to ask the conscientious objector FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #14
FrenchieCat, good to have you back. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #44
Nice to be here.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #54
I think the last fully defensible military action the US engaged in was probably the Korean War. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #17
+100. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #21
Well said. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2016 #52
Right now, the military is mostly used to protect 1 % corporate interests. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #19
Exactly. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #15
Exactly. elias49 Feb 2016 #26
We don't care what your concerns are. This isnt about you. This is about us and why we think the way stevenleser Feb 2016 #37
It's all about you? What a Republican thing to say. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #39
This OP is all about us, yes. Its not about you. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #40
The OP starts with the words "answer for Bernie supporters" Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #41
Exactly! And posted in the General Discussion Primaries Forum. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2016 #53
Thanks for the moral support. n/t Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #56
I hate to say this but.... pinebox Feb 2016 #25
Yes. gordianot Feb 2016 #28
The implication that is the ONLY reason they support here is brazen and sophomoric PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #32
Ya everything is sexist now apparently pinebox Feb 2016 #33
No, not everything. But assuming that is their ONLY reason for support sure is. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #34
lol sure pinebox Feb 2016 #35
I think it's a sexist position. I don't know you from Jack. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #36
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #38
Another poster bashing supporters of Sanders? We don't have enough of those at DU? We have to go to merrily Feb 2016 #51
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