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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
18. There's nothing smeary or unfair about it.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

What I wish the Sanders campaign would articulate a little better is that there is no need to prove, as HRC suggested, that she "changed her vote" on something due to her ties to the financial sector.

It's not a question of quid pro quo corruption. It's a question of point of view. Ms. Clinton eats, sleeps, and breathes Wall Street thinking. Her framing of the financial meltdown as the result of a few insurance firms, i.e. "shadow banking" ignores the fact that the major banks were all eyeballs-deep in the heedless mortgage lending that led to the crisis.

These are her friends. Her colleagues. People who like her well enough to pay her a fortune just to speak with them.

It's not that they are paying her off. It's not that she is trading dollars for votes. That is not the question.

The question is: How do you regulate people with whom you identify as peers and colleagues? People whose point of view you have absorbed through your very skin?

This is not a Hillary Clinton problem. It is a problem with the way everything is done, everywhere. It's not the only problem, or the only thing we need to discuss, but the fact that Ms. Clinton sees everything as fine so long as she is not accepting envelopes full of cash in exchange for American policies is an enormous problem for her and for the rest of our political system.

And she does not seem to want to acknowledge it.

If she thinks that talking about her actions is an attack.... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
bingo Hiraeth Feb 2016 #3
She is acting on advice of Joel "Change You Can Believe In" Benenson GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #4
Bernie is following Obama's model there thesquanderer Feb 2016 #9
She then spent the rest of the debate talking over Sanders and basically using his time as hers. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #2
how very regally rude and self absorbed of her. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #7
Good catch Arazi Feb 2016 #5
she is the victim here 6chars Feb 2016 #6
so sick of her playing the victim card. Come to my area I will show you some victims of her and Hiraeth Feb 2016 #8
well, they are victims too 6chars Feb 2016 #10
everybody is a victim of something. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #11
Victims of their own hubris. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #13
Wait, what day of the week is it? Myrina Feb 2016 #14
Question for you. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #20
We were talking about this yesterday at work laundry_queen Feb 2016 #29
Hillary's plan was obvious! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #12
She doesn't like because there is no real defense to taking bribes from corps. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #15
this was the defining moment of the debate for me redruddyred Feb 2016 #16
Grownups take criticism MuseRider Feb 2016 #26
Color me confused, but ejbr Feb 2016 #17
She was trying to score a rhetorical point. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #30
Indeed. We heard so much about what a champ Bernin4U Feb 2016 #32
There's nothing smeary or unfair about it. DirkGently Feb 2016 #18
Also, it is just natural to not look for ways to bite the hand that feeds you. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #28
Come at me bro! frylock Feb 2016 #19
She doesn't listen - just interrupts. 840high Feb 2016 #21
yep Go Vols Feb 2016 #23
Bernie was a carpenter. Nail meet Hammer. ErikJ Feb 2016 #22
It's not a personal attack of Hillarys mastery of the system. Volaris Feb 2016 #24
That's true, but from the perspecive of a political campaign... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #25
she didn't want an answer. She wanted to play victim & goad him into either rudeness or apology uhnope Feb 2016 #27
That whole disingenuous rant by her was disgusting. cui bono Feb 2016 #31
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