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Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:18 PM

180. Your reference is to Shakespeare's Richard III; specifically, to the dialog right before Richard III

...is killed.

Astoundingly, this reference is possibly even worse than your last one when coupled with your explanation, because it expresses quite the opposite of eventual victory through personal perseverance and determination.

In your new frame, Hillary is Richard III.

Richard III' haughtily opens the address (your partial quotation) by intoning the word "Slave...."

Richard III's chosen way leads to his ultimate failure - i.e., his death - and to him being named a "bloody dog" and a "bloody wretch" as his crown is taken from him.

King Richard III
by William Shakespeare

ACT 5

...

SCENE IV. Another part of the field. (http://shakespeare.mit.edu/richardiii/richardiii.5.4.html)

Alarum: excursions. Enter NORFOLK and forces fighting; to him CATESBY

KING RICHARD III

A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!

CATESBY

Withdraw, my lord; I'll help you to a horse.

KING RICHARD III

Slave, I have set my life upon a cast,
And I will stand the hazard of the die:

I think there be six Richmonds in the field;
Five have I slain to-day instead of him.
A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!

Exeunt

SCENE V. Another part of the field. (http://shakespeare.mit.edu/richardiii/richardiii.5.5.html)

Alarum. Enter KING RICHARD III and RICHMOND; they fight. KING RICHARD III is slain. Retreat and flourish. Re-enter RICHMOND, DERBY bearing the crown, with divers other Lords

RICHMOND

God and your arms be praised, victorious friends,
The day is ours, the bloody dog is dead.

DERBY

Courageous Richmond, well hast thou acquit thee.
Lo, here, this long-usurped royalty
From the dead temples of this bloody wretch
Have I pluck'd off, to grace thy brows withal:
Wear it, enjoy it, and make much of it.

RICHMOND

Great God of heaven, say Amen to all!
But, tell me, is young George Stanley living?

...



Ironically, aside from "Bring it on!" being one of W's most famous phrases, Richard III could not withstand anyone "Bring(ing) it on!"

Are you sure that you support Sec. Clinton? Indirectly comparing her to either Julius Caesar or to King Richard III is not in the least bit complimentary....

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