2016 Postmortem

DUbeornot2be

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43. Or...

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:24 AM

Feb 2016

...if we're playing these games it could jusf as easily be charged that Clinton only became a democrat after being a young political activist with aspirations who found her political horse to latch onto to carry her towards that career of power and fame so she switched her allegiance for political expediency... I mean it IS being argued that being Bill's wife somehow gives her eight years pertinent experience... Just like Laura Bush has eight years experience...

Damn I feel dirty...

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Hillary reminds the Bernie folks that he wasn't a Democrat until now, and they don't like it. [View all] RBInMaine Feb 2016 OP

who did he caucus and vote with? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #1

It's her TURN! She earned the Oval Office by campaigning for other New Democrats and Clintonites! merrily Feb 2016 #4

Except indigoth Feb 2016 #19

When did she ever say it was "her turn?" Tanuki Feb 2016 #32

i don't think she said it: Jim Messina did noiretextatique Feb 2016 #135

She represents the one percent but will throw smalll MaeScott Feb 2016 #162

Ding, ding. Ding! dchill Feb 2016 #55

He's more of a Democrat than Hillary nichomachus Feb 2016 #113

To date, Bernie has raised $1000 for Democratic candidates. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #114

First off, that number is not correct JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #120

Agree and he's also more of a christian than many that say they are Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #146

Nah, it's fine. Now where are hilly's transcripts and can you cali Feb 2016 #2

i, for one, admire it tk2kewl Feb 2016 #129

She reminded them of something they just plain don't give a fuck about. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #3

And how's he going to do that again? Amimnoch Feb 2016 #45

BY keeping her from being president. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #61

ahh, okay. My mistake. I didn't realize we were electing a king this season. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #75

i think meant you Queen noiretextatique Feb 2016 #145

nice non sequitur and avoidance. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #147

How does anyone do anything. Life is but a dour trudge toward death. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #74

Nihilist... deathrind Feb 2016 #105

Fair enough that there is a lot of uncertainty out there. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #109

If he were to have run as an Independant they would be screaming that he was pulling a Nader. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #76

They're only upset because he's gaining ground Hydra Feb 2016 #154

This, yes. Very much so. n/t DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #94

All good points. I have never voted for an Independent and never will. livetohike Feb 2016 #5

yes is more of a Democrat than Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6

Joe Lieberman was the worst pick by Gore, in my opinion. However, if the choice livetohike Feb 2016 #9

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #7

I don't really care about the Democratic Party either. leftupnorth Feb 2016 #13

When the Party goes against its constituents RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #16

Would you like to set yourself up as a guard at the polls? JackRiddler Feb 2016 #8

Any links backing this up? Android3.14 Feb 2016 #10

So what? I'm guessing you may be the next to trash the party once Bernie wins. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #11

Bernie is a real democrat - small d was intentional. leftupnorth Feb 2016 #12

After reading so many posts about Bernie not being a Democrat and how horrible it is, Vinca Feb 2016 #14

Hillary Clinton was a Republican once. You all seem fine with that. n/t sarge43 Feb 2016 #15

..and still retains much of that ideology and for some, that's a deal breaker whether to nc4bo Feb 2016 #17

Sanders didn't leave the Democratic Party. It left him when it started shifting right. sarge43 Feb 2016 #26

Hillary Clinton has officially BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #44

Bernie Sanders acts and votes like a Democrat. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #48

Fair enough, but please BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #89

Absolutely fine. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #58

and he has always voted and Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #60

Well of course "always" is not true, he has also voted with Republicans. In fact he voted with seaglass Feb 2016 #163

you sure liked his votes when he helped Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #165

Why don't you admit that you made a false statement instead of the off-topic personal attack? seaglass Feb 2016 #166

yep I should have said as I said before Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #167

All you had to do was correct your false statement. It is true of course that Bernie voted and seaglass Feb 2016 #168

A Republican? LeFleur1 Feb 2016 #159

Clinton is opportunist. She does whatever it takes to advance Clinton sarge43 Feb 2016 #160

Bernie is more of a Democrat that most who claim the label Sienna86 Feb 2016 #18

Another day, another version of red baiting. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #20

Hey, it is a day job. Gotta make a living, eh? ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #126

So Bernie has to promise beedle Feb 2016 #21

Nice try......NOT. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #22

that's all you got? Javaman Feb 2016 #23

Being a Democrat is more than a check mark on a fucking piece of paper. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #24

Actually, in the two-party BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #83

Good post. But I disagree on your time frame rpannier Feb 2016 #102

OK, my brush was too broad. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #103

yawn Shadowflash Feb 2016 #25

Yes, this don't pick on me from the Bernie fans last night was laughable. riversedge Feb 2016 #27

Actually, that doesn't bother me a bit. CanonRay Feb 2016 #28

He was a better Democrat without the name then Hillary ever was... yourout Feb 2016 #29

He still is. dchill Feb 2016 #101

I am a Democrat because a bunch of people stand Generic Other Feb 2016 #30

and I remember how happy the Clinton people were when Bernie said he would run in the primary as a D karynnj Feb 2016 #31

Exactly. klook Feb 2016 #99

One's a Democrat. One's a Wall Street shill. left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #33

Yah, it doesn't surprise me that Hillary would argue this. delrem Feb 2016 #34

Labels are way down the list of what people vote for GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #35

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.” Bernie Sanders workinclasszero Feb 2016 #36

Yup. Shadowflash Feb 2016 #40

Well said. n/t DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #96

the party IS ideologically bankrupt noiretextatique Feb 2016 #127

It doesn't bother me, what label he chooses to run under My Good Babushka Feb 2016 #37

We have seen many times where Hillary was a Goldwater girl as a teenager. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #38

Yawn. blackspade Feb 2016 #39

I find it very hard FlaGranny Feb 2016 #41

Not a Democrat then or now! Cryptoad Feb 2016 #42

Riiiiiiight. FrostyAusty Feb 2016 #78

+1 JackInGreen Feb 2016 #92

Or... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #43

Goldwater girl says what, now? nt Gore1FL Feb 2016 #46

Yes... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #52

The only people who care about Sander's party identification are political junkies who... Odin2005 Feb 2016 #47

The call to party loyalty is pretty transparent Hydra Feb 2016 #155

i, for one, admire the fact that he was never associated with either party tk2kewl Feb 2016 #49

So? Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #50

Hillary reminds me of everything I have come to dislike about Dem Party. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #51

^^^^^^^ This! DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #59

Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme Number 127 cantbeserious Feb 2016 #53

We could care less. CentralMass Feb 2016 #54

Whatever Bernie is, officially - I am voting for him. djean111 Feb 2016 #56

he is more of a Democrat than Hillary Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #62

Absolutely. djean111 Feb 2016 #65

I guess other then the label FDR wasnt a Democratic President either if that is the case. libtodeath Feb 2016 #57

yep Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #64

He was enough of a Democrat for Harry Reid to make him a committee chair bigbrother05 Feb 2016 #63

How... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #68

And Hillary campaigned for Goldwater and Nelson Rockefeller. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #66

He's been a Dem for less than a year, and he's already a better Dem than Clinton will ever be. Iggo Feb 2016 #67

It doesn't matter what party Perogie Feb 2016 #69

Bernie folks throw tantrums when you talk about Bernie that way liberal N proud Feb 2016 #70

How are you going sell our nominee being indicted? Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #71

I love that he is not a Democrat Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #72

Bernie was right to bash the Democratic Party nyabingi Feb 2016 #73

You need to get on the payroll Scalded Nun Feb 2016 #77

Hillary gets attacked because of HER many documented actions ... DrBulldog Feb 2016 #79

Goldwater! Whoot! snort Feb 2016 #80

In high school. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #142

Same logo Hydra Feb 2016 #156

Challenged? Orsino Feb 2016 #81

The Democratic political establishment are now corporatists hoosierlib Feb 2016 #82

That line will only encourage more Ralph Naders. jalan48 Feb 2016 #84

Another variant of the usual corporate Dem spin Depaysement Feb 2016 #85

Hillary is a blue dog. erlewyne Feb 2016 #86

also... desmiller Feb 2016 #128

Do you remember who threw the FIRST punch? DrBulldog Feb 2016 #87

Trashing the Dems dpatbrown Feb 2016 #88

NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE !! Hiraeth Feb 2016 #90

sorry but the DSCC didn't contribute to his Senate campaign for nothing azurnoir Feb 2016 #91

The most amusing part of the Sanders' run is the claim to be an "outsider" Tarc Feb 2016 #93

NO he doesn't...the media claims that noiretextatique Feb 2016 #133

Who is this Bernie supporter who needs be reminded Bernie wasn't a Democrat until now? Autumn Feb 2016 #95

Could this possibly monicaangela Feb 2016 #97

Does a label matter? malthaussen Feb 2016 #98

Spare me the righteous indignation angrychair Feb 2016 #100

I frankly don't give a damn. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #104

Wow, that's all you got? eggplant Feb 2016 #106

Nicely done. n/t DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #110

Bernie only adopted the democratic label... quickesst Feb 2016 #107

Who cares? Do you have some links demonstrating people hate that? Arazi Feb 2016 #108

Love to reply to your questions EndElectoral Feb 2016 #111

She hasn't even challenged him on the WORST stuff in his closet. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #112

STUFF!! AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #115

Nope, Sanders supporters hide all of this stuff immediately. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #117

All this amazing STUFF! AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #118

Nope, no insults. IT is hidden because it makes Sanders look bad. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #119

then why can't you post this damning STUFF? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #136

Because I don't want a hide. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #137

you do know the jury system is random, right? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #140

A random system that has 85% of potential jurors who will vote to hide MohRokTah Feb 2016 #143

not true at all...the Hillary Clinton Group is an example. noiretextatique Feb 2016 #144

LMAO...and not ONE example of this STUFF noiretextatique Feb 2016 #131

no matter how many times it is posted, it is still just opinion and speculation noiretextatique Feb 2016 #130

Lol! Pro Clinton Pac desperate to make Sanders look bad Arazi Feb 2016 #132

typical clinton noiretextatique Feb 2016 #134

She accused Obama of cheating and dirty tricks too. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #164

This blame game is childish and petty noiretextatique Feb 2016 #116

This is nonsense ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #139

if DU had not de-evolved into a cesspool of victimhood noiretextatique Feb 2016 #141

Translattion: Vote for the Lesser of Two Evils candidate because Bernie's a SOCIALIST!!! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #121

Most of us dont give a flying fuck what letter is after his name. bunnies Feb 2016 #122

Aw c'mon Bernie didn't trash the dems, he was rightly critical of the deal to continue the Bush tax flamingdem Feb 2016 #123

I honestly don't care whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #124

n/t asuhornets Feb 2016 #125

Hillary should primary Sander's in 2020 bahrbearian Feb 2016 #138

Ha! Hydra Feb 2016 #157

He voted with my Senators Akaka and Inouye on every important vote. mahina Feb 2016 #148

Hey "RBInMaine." I'm calling you out on your hit-and-run posting. Ron Green Feb 2016 #149

actually I don't mind it but I am an independent dana_b Feb 2016 #150

I'm not, either, but I Caucus with the Democrats here in Iowa. stone space Feb 2016 #151

I LOVE the fact that Bernie Sanders was an Independent for most of his political career! He's Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #152

Since you're from Maine too jopacaco Feb 2016 #153

Bring a fair argument and there's no problem, just good and healthy argument. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #158

Because it doesn't matter. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #161