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polly7

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41. Then why does ANYONE enter politics?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:31 AM
Feb 2016

The whole idea of entering politics is presumably to advocate for what the people paying you need and try to get enough to come around to pass bills for the changes needed. Is any politician magically able to change laws and pass bills on their own? I've never seen it - anywhere.

Clinton must be one of those magicians with all those things she's going to be able to put in place instantly. But then, the people/corporations paying her aren't the same as those paying Bernie and all of those who actually spend years working for real people.

Democratic Socialism and the 2016 US Presidential Election

Bernie Sanders, Democratic Socialism, and the Other America (Part Two of a Five Part Series)

by Edward Martin and Mateo Pimentel / February 18th, 2016

Fast forward to 2016.

As a result of the Great Recession in 2008, most Americans today have literally struggled for their economic lives in one way or another. The manifestations have been felt painfully in wage-reductions, job loss, depleted 401K accounts, raided pensions, short sales on homes, foreclosures on homes, survival credit card debt, financial bankruptcy, healthcare bankruptcy, family financial stress, repossessions, economic and emotional scars of the phony war in the Middle East, soldier deaths, wounded veterans, etc. At the same time, billionaires and the 1% have been doing better than ever with record economic growth, publicly funded bailouts of corporations, and multibillion dollar tax breaks to boot. In contrast, the pain that everyday people have experienced is real. But the only political candidate today that seems to have identified this devastation and translated it into real political issues of substance is Bernie Sanders. He has tapped into this pain and has thus been able to pound away on some of the most pressing policy issues of our time. Sanders has continually repeated the chorus of injustices that people have experienced as a direct result of the billionaire conquest of our democratic society and the financial destruction of the middle class. Suffice it to say, the poor and underclass in America have almost completely slipped under the radar. The result of this has been that two different Americas have re-emerged, and the use of the term “re-emerged” is intentional here because this has all happened before in the history of the US.

Not a single-issue candidate.

In addition to the class conflict-warfare theme underlying Bernie Sanders political campaign (which is really what Citizens United and campaign finance reform is all about) are several other related issues. Bernie Sanders opposed the Iraq War Authorization, Wall Street Bailout (TARP), Patriot Act 2001, Patriot Act Reauthorization 2006, Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), Death Penalty, Keystone XL Pipeline, Border Fence Legislation 2006, and Offshore Oil Drilling. He supports: breaking up big banks; reauthorizing Glass-Steagall; and rescinding Citizens United and the corporate takeover of democracy in the US. He opposed the Brady bill simply because it made owners of gun shops criminally liable for guns they sold to non-criminals. But the key point is this: Sanders understands the human economic tragedy suffered as a result of the 1%. Bernie Sanders has a movement going that will not be stopped, regardless of whether or not the media provide a shallow analysis of his campaign. Even if he is not elected president of the United States, his influence will carry on because the issues are like raw wounds, compounded by Citizens United undermining of legitimate democratic governance. What constitutes illegitimate governance is corporate money paid to congressmen, congresswomen, and senators, in order to do the business of big business as a priority, not the people’s business. See some of the relevant research published by Larry Bartels, Unequal Democracy: The Political Economy of the New Guilded Age, Princeton University Press, 2008; Benjamin Page and Lawrence Jacobs, Class War? What Americans Really Think About Economic Inequality, University of Chicago Press, 2009; Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspectives on Politics, 2014, 564-581; and Edward Martin, “Oligarchy, Anarchy, and Social Justice,” Contemporary Justice Review, 2015, 55-67.

What the establishment elites and media want desperately to avoid is the class conflict-warfare theme underlying all of this. Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie mentioned at a recent Republican debate, February 8, 2016, that raising taxes on millionaires is “a failed idea and a failed policy; it’s class warfare.” Imagine that! The rich are now being oppressed! So the establishment plays victim and wants to avoid any historical narrative of actual life-and-death struggles that took place throughout the history of the United States, resulting from class conflict-warfare, and tragically, to which the United States is reverting. This narrative is becoming uncomfortably reminiscent. Big business, government, military, bureaucracy, and the money media (military-industrial-bureaucratic-media complex) do not want a systematic analysis of the economic issues and the underlying causes of poverty and inequality taking place in the United States. After all, why would they jeopardize their profit margins?

Their bottom line is profits, and they want to make sure their profit margins are steadily increasing. They do not want a systemic analysis of stagnant wages by American workers over the past forty years or trade deals leveraged on developing countries and fast-tracked fascist style through Congress as is the TPP. Yet, imagine if The Other America, “war on poverty” safety nets were missing when the Great Recession hit. Robert Reich has argued that the reason it was a Great Recession, and not another Great Depression, was precisely because The Other America, “war on poverty” “socialist” public policies were in place. Absent these socialist strategies, the economic damage would have been catastrophic. Other economists, such as Richard Wolff, Stephen Resnick, and John Roemer, argue that the safety net might already be a thing of the past. The ironic tragedy is that this has a boomerang effect on the rich themselves if workers themselves are unable to purchase or consume. Henry Ford understood this effect. Workers need to spend. If not he would soon be out of business. Hauntingly, Marx and Engels’ prediction in the Communist Manifesto has become increasingly significant in that the bourgeoisie produces “its own gravediggers.”


http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/02/democratic-socialism-and-the-2016-us-presidential-election/
Thing is, if you think a candidate is untrustworthy, why do you vote for their campaign rhetoric? merrily Feb 2016 #1
My purely selfish interests lie more with republicans. cali Feb 2016 #2
He switched to Indie and caucused with the Dems, until he retired--and Bernie followed his lead. merrily Feb 2016 #7
I can't say for sure, but... couldn't a person convince themselves there's a special relationship HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #9
Clear, concise analysis, merrily. I'd add two other factors senz Feb 2016 #80
Wow. Very insightful! I especially love the analysis about women. merrily Feb 2016 #97
senz, merrily And A Long List Of Others... VERY WELL SAID... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #100
That first reason would apply to me if I were not the issue junkie that I am eridani Feb 2016 #103
Yes!This is how I feel exactly Iol59 Feb 2016 #3
Thank you. cali Feb 2016 #5
K&R nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #4
Last night, the other candidate demonstrated her typical character Jarqui Feb 2016 #6
Yes! Kittycat Feb 2016 #25
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #8
I think that is why they have assailed him as "naive" rather than "untrustworthy" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #10
I don't know how ANYONE can look at that chart and not be concerned about Hillary in the G.E. EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #34
It depends on who she may be up against. Of course we have to consider the intellect of voters. YOHABLO Feb 2016 #89
I'll take naive and optimistic over jaded and hopeless any day. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #38
"Some look at things as they are and hifiguy Feb 2016 #42
+1.nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #47
Yes and it's easily debunked: a lifetime of activism and public service =/= "naive" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #62
great #'s for Bernie what surprises me is Kasich NoMoreRepugs Feb 2016 #76
Kasich.... RazBerryBeret Feb 2016 #95
Ultimately her message seems very clear GeoWilliam750 Feb 2016 #88
They are afraid to go after his character. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #96
k & r +1000 islandmkl Feb 2016 #11
People can sense that he is a good man. Vattel Feb 2016 #12
agreed ellennelle Feb 2016 #13
Thanks Cali, K&R Mbrow Feb 2016 #14
Then you figure you wouldn't be voting for the candidate who peddles policies he knows boston bean Feb 2016 #15
That is a false claim. Bernie has been clear. cali Feb 2016 #18
His policies are bunk. They don't add up. They are not do-able, the way he is leading young people boston bean Feb 2016 #19
Bullshit. And it's not answering. He's been advocating cali Feb 2016 #20
I could advocate that everyone gets a million bucks salary every year. boston bean Feb 2016 #21
If Bernie wins the whole enchilada, would you help in fighting for these things? Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #22
Won't happen, but I would vote for him against a republican. boston bean Feb 2016 #24
I wasn't clear enough, if he wins the White House, (spare me the "won't happen" I know Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #30
Then why does ANYONE enter politics? polly7 Feb 2016 #41
Maybe you are too young to remember, but before Reagan we used to do things as a country, Gore1FL Feb 2016 #35
^ this. These Can't-do-Dems disgust me. Schema Thing Feb 2016 #46
Oh yes, those poor deluded young people. EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #37
You aren't a very astute listener. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #40
Projecting? noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #43
ah the audacity of nope azurnoir Feb 2016 #50
These aren't novel ideas. Other countries have universal healthcare and tuition paid for. Jackilope Feb 2016 #51
The policies do add up. It will be up to the voters to determine whether they are do-able. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #60
Robert Reich liberal from boston Feb 2016 #64
Please explain how Clinton gets Republicans to expand the ACA. jeff47 Feb 2016 #28
+1000 stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #33
Having someone that at least wants to change the current corrupt system is much rhett o rick Feb 2016 #44
MLK never delivered on a color-blind society. Qutzupalotl Feb 2016 #45
+ 100 Sums it up. senz Feb 2016 #67
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #54
Oh, did Hillary get an advance vote from Congress on her policies? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #56
2008 called. They would like that talking point back nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #71
I think they are objectives, not policies. How does the word "policies" work in a government TryLogic Feb 2016 #73
then why don't people trust HER? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #79
What can be delivered depends on what you ask for eridani Feb 2016 #101
The funny thing is Clinton directly panders to certain groups davidpdx Feb 2016 #109
We Us Together - Vs - No Can't and Impossible -- The Choice Is Clear cantbeserious Feb 2016 #16
There was a day when SmittynMo Feb 2016 #17
And that stuns me. Kittycat Feb 2016 #32
well said! n/t ccinamon Feb 2016 #84
Actually his total net worth is less than she rakes in for two speeches. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #99
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #23
You are a great advocate. thereismore Feb 2016 #26
That's good enough for me. delrem Feb 2016 #27
I know, right? Going forward... caduceus111 Feb 2016 #29
I believe monicaangela Feb 2016 #31
I agree with you. Punkingal Feb 2016 #53
Thank you Punkingal monicaangela Feb 2016 #66
I agree noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #36
Me three. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #102
He is so much the epitome of the Public Servant as his opponent is the Politician. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #39
Sanders' character and his agenda do seem intertwined... Orsino Feb 2016 #48
Character JGug1 Feb 2016 #49
Character noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #57
So, what new voters is Clinton brining into the party? eridani Feb 2016 #107
Amen, Cali .... Trajan Feb 2016 #52
I applaud your positive personal experience with Bernie, and would even agree with you Bernie is a still_one Feb 2016 #55
Thanks noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #58
I agree, and I usually don't mind minor character dings. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #59
agree! n/t ccinamon Feb 2016 #86
Wasn't That A Jackson Browne Song?? ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #105
Yes, it is. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #112
YES, & DOUBLE YES! He FIRST Got Me When ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #114
OK, I DO SEE IT! I Spelled His Name Wrong... YIKES! n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #115
I'm right there with ya, ChiciB1 :) Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #116
K&R n/t NikolaC Feb 2016 #61
You got that right Generic Other Feb 2016 #63
Your voice, as his long-time constituent, is so important. AmBlue Feb 2016 #65
Met a guy from Vermont out here in AZ azmom Feb 2016 #68
K&R quantumjunkie Feb 2016 #69
For me it's a white-hot hatred of establishment corporatist politics Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #70
That and another aspect nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #72
And about the rigged for-profit corporate media, and out-of-touch, calculating, dishonest TryLogic Feb 2016 #74
Yes, they have been slowly turning up the heat in the pot of boiling water DiehardLiberal Feb 2016 #90
Yeah but he's got the wrong between his legs. MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #75
Kicked and recommended. Duval Feb 2016 #77
That is true. ananda Feb 2016 #78
K&R Complete agreement. senz Feb 2016 #81
I agree. No candidate in history has accomplished everything they set out to accomplish. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #82
Kicked and recommended! This post should have a bazillion of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #83
and that comes across very clearly: he's a person of outstanding character. ccinamon Feb 2016 #85
Not much left to say, except that I'm jealous...not really...but you've been blessed and libdem4life Feb 2016 #87
You have crystallized what I believe is the most important attribute.... virgdem Feb 2016 #91
I don't know him as well as you do but same for me. nt californiabernin Feb 2016 #92
My Bernie moment LiberalBear Feb 2016 #93
Welcome to DU, LiberalBear! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2016 #98
Thanks for the advice LiberalBear Feb 2016 #113
" He's a person of outstanding character." Jopin Klobe Feb 2016 #94
Thank you! K&R n/t Michigan-Arizona Feb 2016 #104
Yep. Thank you this is exactly right. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #106
"His judgment is informed by his character." avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #108
Cali, I hope Nevada is thinking the same way as you are. Duckfan Feb 2016 #110
So do I, Duckfan, so do I. cali Feb 2016 #111
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