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2016 Postmortem

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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
18. Great post.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

To some it seems that any criticism of their candidate must be some kind of right wing attack.

I agree with you on the issue of fracking - and on the issue of Goldman Sachs. I would go further in suggesting that every single politician who voted for the IWR without reading the available documentation on the issue... is also a matter of concern for me. This is one of the reasons I voted for Obama. He had the audacity to educate himself in regards to the issue - and cast his vote with both awareness and conscience.

Our society does have to change, this is not in question, I don't think, by either side of the primary debate. The question, it seems, is whether or not we can accomplish the changes we desire and, if so, who might be better able to help bring them about. If we consider the history of both of these candidates, their stances on the issues that matter most to the common people - and the common good, then I believe that Mr. Sanders overwhelmingly comes out on top.

The super PACs, the big money... the corporate influence, the downright corruption and bribery so often involved in our campaign finance system... in particular, has to come to an end. I also do not believe that super delegates should play the part they do in our elections - or any part that permits them to cast votes as though they were a town or large group of citizens unto themselves. One person should get one vote. Regardless of whether this system has yet been abused, the potential - and the likelihood of this taking place... is very threatening to any notion that we are in fact a democratic Nation.

Honestly, I am disgusted with political/campaign finance. Candidates are taking money from people and corporations that represent the very worst, the most despicable, of what humanity has to offer. For profit prisons... financial.. "institutions" that brought down our economy - and could very well do so again..., the Federal reserve (neither actually federal, nor actually a reserve...) and so on.

Of course, that is often how it works here in America - for profit prisons, for profit universities, for profit medicine.... the way of our society, it seems, is to put money first. The time is coming, I think, when wealth will no longer be viewed by our society as some kind of superiority, evidence of greatness, strength, or value as it relates to humanity overall...

There are a lot of things about my Country that I dislike. Some of them are represented and promoted by Clinton, through her actions, words - and ultimately, through her campaign.

Bernie isn't perfect (and would be the first to tell you so), by any means, but he's someone I will proudly stand with and support, because I believe he represents the best in us, as Americans, as people of common decency, empathy, courage... compassion.

It seems to me that the Bern is getting stronger and stronger every day... let's win an election!

Who We Are [View all] H2O Man Feb 2016 OP
K&R..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #24
K&R too islandmkl Feb 2016 #2
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #25
Thank you, H2O Man... k8conant Feb 2016 #3
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #26
I think there is a third possible reason for their "right wing attack" characterization tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4
Dem = LW, not-Dem = RW MisterP Feb 2016 #9
that's the end game of neoliberal economics tk2kewl Feb 2016 #14
Right. H2O Man Feb 2016 #32
the "not a Dem" argument falls into the tribal category for sure tk2kewl Feb 2016 #35
It's gotten really rough Saviolo Feb 2016 #44
Look I am Native American... Rockyj Feb 2016 #59
I agree with this. It's an in-group-outgroup thing eridani Feb 2016 #60
Saving our planet and HRC's support for more war are my two big issues Arazi Feb 2016 #5
Very good! H2O Man Feb 2016 #34
I think folks dismiss right wing attacks bigtree Feb 2016 #6
I agree with that. H2O Man Feb 2016 #38
I have a question regarding the general election. Gregorian Feb 2016 #7
You are correct. H2O Man Feb 2016 #39
Thank you! haikugal Feb 2016 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #40
Thank you, great op Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #10
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #48
AIR WATER FOOD - we must get these things right SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #11
Right. H2O Man Feb 2016 #49
Thank you for your activism Matariki Feb 2016 #12
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #50
Excellent, as always. Punkingal Feb 2016 #13
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #51
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #15
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #52
As a Clinton critic long before the first one left office stupidicus Feb 2016 #16
Very interesting. H2O Man Feb 2016 #57
Most of the "free thinking" Democratic Party seems to actively avoid debate/discussion these days. MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #17
So true casperthegm Feb 2016 #23
If you came recently you picked an especially bad time. I lurked for years and it's usually... MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #27
Right. H2O Man Feb 2016 #58
that explanation makes sense to me re: Trump nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #63
I don't think so, re Trump. malthaussen Feb 2016 #88
Very well said! H2O Man Feb 2016 #90
Great post. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #18
Thanks, David! H2O Man Feb 2016 #64
One thing -- Obama did not vote on the IWR. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #89
Kick! thereismore Feb 2016 #19
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #65
knr and GASP! retrowire Feb 2016 #20
Thank you. H2O Man Feb 2016 #66
K & R... Another very thought-provoking post; thanks! (eom) mak3cats Feb 2016 #21
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #67
With you all the way on that and add in protections mmonk Feb 2016 #22
Absolutely! H2O Man Feb 2016 #68
Your considered, reasoned voice in this forum annabanana Feb 2016 #28
Thank you, Anna B! H2O Man Feb 2016 #69
K&R angrychair Feb 2016 #29
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #72
wonderful, wonderful post. thank you, H2O Man roguevalley Feb 2016 #30
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #73
K&R Mbrow Feb 2016 #31
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #74
Not much to add, here. malthaussen Feb 2016 #33
Right. H2O Man Feb 2016 #75
Highly recommended. Thanks once again. Ron Green Feb 2016 #36
Great point, Ron. H2O Man Feb 2016 #76
K & R! Well said! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #37
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #77
Thank you. K/R 840high Feb 2016 #41
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #78
K&R&H2O dchill Feb 2016 #42
Thank you, Friend dchill! H2O Man Feb 2016 #79
Outstanding post. hifiguy Feb 2016 #43
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #80
Thank you for another thoughtful post, H20 Man. democrank Feb 2016 #45
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #81
Well said. Zorra Feb 2016 #46
Thanks, Zorra. H2O Man Feb 2016 #83
"... needs to change, in order to survive..." immoderate Feb 2016 #47
Exactly right! H2O Man Feb 2016 #84
Another great post! rosesaylavee Feb 2016 #53
Thank you, my Good Friend! H2O Man Feb 2016 #85
Now your DU handle is clear...thank you for your work for all of these years and for this post. libdem4life Feb 2016 #54
Thanks, libdem4life! H2O Man Feb 2016 #86
Thank you, H2O Man.... As always, words of wisdom and truth bring peace nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #55
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #87
Kick azmom Feb 2016 #56
K&R for another excellent post, H2O Man... ms liberty Feb 2016 #61
Wonderful essay. K&R myrna minx Feb 2016 #62
K&R Proud to be a tree hugger. Proud to stand with you. nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Sensitive soul Feb 2016 #71
KnR for visibility. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #82
Get This to the TOP of the page! Excellent Post, Thank You again! 2banon Feb 2016 #91
kick for more eyeballs opportunities..... good read nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #92
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