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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)THIS is who they want to put in the Whitehouse? Really?!? [View all]

What Hillary conveniently left out is that her husband, President Bill Clinton, along with her current campaigns chief financial officer, Gary Gensler, drafted and pushed to insert the Commodities Futures Modernization Act (CFMA) into an 11,000 page must-pass annual budget appropriation at the final hour. Then her husband enthusiastically signed it into law.
Only the most naive or deceitful would suggest that voting for a huge spending bill to keep the government from shutting down means you are voting for every single thing in the legislation. After Bernie (and other Democrats) discovered the manipulation, he championed the fight against the CFMA, including later getting the Enron Loophole removed and trying (unsuccessfully) to block Goldman Sachs Gary Gensler from securing an Obama appointment to chair the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
What does Hillary do instead? She hires the $60-million Gary Gensler to advise her campaign and help her with debate prep. No doubt he and his ilk are on her short list for Treasury Secretary.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/25/1475088/-Hillary-s-Latest-Dirty-Trick-Outrages-Even-Kumbaya-Progressive-Thom-Hartmann
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I agree. There's no there there that I would support, not on the substantial issues of the day.
highprincipleswork
Feb 2016
#1
You think that list is false? Not only is it true but it is just a partial list. nt
Live and Learn
Feb 2016
#159
Hartmann's list is repeated below. You say it is false. Please go over each, item by item, and
Cal33
Feb 2016
#187
And that's as substantive as a Clinton support ever gets when discussing issues.
rhett o rick
Feb 2016
#243
Yea, I guess you are right, i wouldn't feel good about giving secret speeches either
nolabels
Feb 2016
#80
Because its all about perception. Nevermind the actual history, hidden behind the curtain...
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#111
I can conceive of people having a differant point of view. I cannot understand people
mikehiggins
Feb 2016
#259
You, and the Hillary supporters of which you appear to be, are proving the point.
concreteblue
Feb 2016
#278
So, why are you voting for Hillary? Oh, and ALL OTHERS are not evildoers. Good lord almighty.
libdem4life
Feb 2016
#293
"You can't sway religious fanatics, flat earthers, or Hillary supporters. Facts are anathema to all.
hifiguy
Feb 2016
#193
Sympathetic to HRC? Are you serious? Why would I be more sympathetic to the establishment candidate?
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#71
In high school? She was a junior in college when she decided to support McGovern.
Petrushka
Feb 2016
#245
Over 40 years a registered Democrat, never missed an election always voted a straight
Autumn
Feb 2016
#69
Bernie isn't destroying the party, neither are his supporters. The law allows anyone to run for
Autumn
Feb 2016
#180
No, that's a fact. Anyone is entitled to run for President in any party if they meet the
Autumn
Feb 2016
#195
Well you did find my name and a few of my posts but I fail to see what those have to do with this.
Autumn
Feb 2016
#208
If the Democratic Party can't put up decent opposition to the Republican Party, it needs an overhaul
johnlucas
Feb 2016
#291
As I have said many times, I am a life-long Democrat. I wore an Adlai Stevenson pin to school
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#135
If I wanted any of those things I would be looking towards the Republican party.
Cassiopeia
Feb 2016
#8
Right You Are - Once Again - BDS Rules - And Democrats Are Forced To Vote - Republican Lite
cantbeserious
Feb 2016
#18
Your bright red quote from John Lennon (who would have been a Bernie supported)
panader0
Feb 2016
#88
Sid never will. Well over half of the posts I see from him are laughing emoticons.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#116
This Citizen Is Appalled At What Passes For Politics In A Modern Democracy
cantbeserious
Feb 2016
#15
Congratulations! You've successfully avoided countering the aforementioned issues!
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#93
And yet you've STILL managed to successfully avoid countering the aforementioned issues!
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#107
More like, spew a bunch of information that fails to serve as a counter to the argument.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#118
People with this mindset have been running things for far too long in the Dem Party.
Broward
Feb 2016
#47
I reject your notion that nominating Bernie would lead to a republican president...
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#167
It's just a glimpse into the 'inside Washington' country club. These folks don't give a
YOHABLO
Feb 2016
#263
BAH! THat's nothing that a laughing emoticon defense/rebuttal can't overcome.
stupidicus
Feb 2016
#20
Why is that? If everyone gets covered, it is Universal Healthcare, bro. She'll get there faster
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#77
Let's see, if we get a public option, increased subsidies, expanded Medicaid in every state, etc.,
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#86
I agree with Reid. When at least 42% of the country is opposed to single payer, why try
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#113
Bernie was attacked for "turning healthcare over to the Republican states",
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#105
I did not say every state. Some red states will still resist, although increased government incen-
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#117
I think she is, but the primary is not the place to fight that issue. Save it for the GOPers.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#186
i have read her white sheet on healthcare,nothing about a public option
questionseverything
Feb 2016
#189
"I like here approach and pragmatism, not just wild promises pandering to gullible people."
dana_b
Feb 2016
#120
Problem is, Glass-Steagall didn't/doesn't regulate the entities responsible for the melt down.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#125
Umm...what? Glass-Steagall was exactly about regulating banks and securites that cause the depresion
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#155
GS didn't regulate AGI, Lehman Bros, Bear Stearns, Washington Mutual, Chevrolet, Chrysler, etc.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#163
Wrong. GS regulated ALL securities and ALL banks. Nice try. Why dont you go read up on it.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#171
As I told another poster; I dont accept the "Vote for hillary or else" premise.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#146
These aren't the main issues with Clinton... In fact, they would appeal to some voters.
Skwmom
Feb 2016
#87
K&R. In general, you can tell from the posts on DU that the thoughtful people, the people
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#90
I love Bernie, but She's still a million times better than ANY republican candidate.
OverBurn
Feb 2016
#102
'They'? Is that like 'Those people?' How about 'we' meaning the people who are voting for her?
randome
Feb 2016
#109
Right... sure... malign Bernie supporters as acting like tea party...that'll win hearts and minds...
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#217
I fully believe in the power of the vote........................................
turbinetree
Feb 2016
#172
Excluding the rich and powerful, Hillary supporters should never again mock Republicans
Broward
Feb 2016
#185
Since nobody can be bothered to do the research, here are links that support fully or in large part
crim son
Feb 2016
#173
"whoever the DNC nominates!" Like hell. It's the people's choice... NOT the DNC's. Full stop!
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#210
Fuck Who Trump Appoints To The Supreme Court I'll Have My 'Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bernie Sticker
Corey_Baker08
Feb 2016
#203
Just be practical. Hold your nose firmly, forget principles, your conscience, and vote for
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2016
#206
One thing this primary has done is drain away any marginal support I once had for her
deutsey
Feb 2016
#270