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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton: I Could Compromise on Abortion If It Included Exceptions For Mother's Health [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)38. Hillary Clinton is a "mind conservative" proponent of "Safe legal and RARE."
Hillary Clinton is a conservative, period. She is not a right-winger, or a religious fanatic, or any of the other full-on crazy things that American conservatives have glommed onto of late, but she is, as she has said herself,
"a mind conservative and a heart liberal".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
What she is telling us is that, when she thinks about it, conservatives are right, but that she concedes that philosophy can be softened here and there for the sake of sentiment.
That is wrong. Conservatives are not right, not in general, not on most things. Not, especially, in the area of women's reproductive rights and abortion. She believes abortion is "sad," and "tragic," just as the worst conservatives wrongly contend. It is in her favor that that she is less willing to limit women's rights in this area, but her "mind," is conservative and wrong.
We can all recognize that abortion in many ways represents a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women.
I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected
I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected
http://benjaminstudebaker.com/2016/02/08/hillary-clinton-isnt-particularly-good-for-feminism/
Her mind is likewise conservative on war and the Middle East, taking cues from Kissinger, the failed architect of American interventionism quite rightly considered criminal by many. He told her Iraq needed to be "humiliated," so here we are -- thousands of American and millions of Iraqi lives shattered, a trillion or so spent, and -- surprise -- more instability and violence in the region than ever.
Her mind is conservative as to Wall Street and financial reform. Those speech transcripts, when they inevitably do come out, probably won't show anything we don't already know, but they will almost certainly confirm the kind of "mind conservative" thinking she had going as to the mortgage crisis as it was starting to emerge in 2007:
Now these economic problems are certainly not all Wall Streets fault not by a long shot, Clinton said early in the speech.
Clintons NASDAQ address amounted to essentially asking the financiers assembled to take voluntary action or else she would consider legislation to stop banks from kicking families out of their homes. But early on in the speech, Clinton placed equal blame for the subprime mortgage crisis on low-income homeowners alongside Wall Street.
Homebuyers who paid extra fees to avoid documenting their income should have known they were getting in over their heads, Clinton said.
Clintons NASDAQ address amounted to essentially asking the financiers assembled to take voluntary action or else she would consider legislation to stop banks from kicking families out of their homes. But early on in the speech, Clinton placed equal blame for the subprime mortgage crisis on low-income homeowners alongside Wall Street.
Homebuyers who paid extra fees to avoid documenting their income should have known they were getting in over their heads, Clinton said.
http://usuncut.com/politics/video-surfaces-of-hillary-clinton-blaming-homeowners-for-financial-crisis/
Hillary can be a conservative all she wants. It is one point of view. But sanding off the rough edges of today's extremist Republicans does not make her "progressive."
And it does not make her right.
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Hillary Clinton: I Could Compromise on Abortion If It Included Exceptions For Mother's Health [View all]
eridani
Feb 2016
OP
Aside from her own personal ambition, is there ANYTHING she would NOT compromise on?
Vote2016
Feb 2016
#3
Well, seeing as how she gave her firstborn to the banksters, I'm guessing no! n/t
Jester Messiah
Feb 2016
#21
Amazing how Hillary can come up with more reasons NOT to vote for her all by herself!
Kip Humphrey
Feb 2016
#10
Show your work! Late term abortions are a part, not the whole, of the discussion.
kristopher
Feb 2016
#65
This looks like Hillary is going to adopt Obama's method of negotiating with the right wing.
Gary 50
Feb 2016
#19
"...if there's a way to structure some kind of constitutional restriction...."
blackspade
Feb 2016
#37
Hillary Clinton is a "mind conservative" proponent of "Safe legal and RARE."
DirkGently
Feb 2016
#38
So? Why does that make ANY constitutional amendment restricting abortion OK? n/t
eridani
Feb 2016
#72