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Waiting For Everyman

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66. So the Clinton Crime Bill creating mass incarceration and
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:47 AM
Feb 2016

their involvement in creating the private prison industry doesn't bother black people?

http://www.dunwalke.com/10_Clinton_Administration.htm

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511265288

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/politics/bill-clinton-crime-prisons-hillary-clinton/index.html


Ok, well that's very interesting. But I still don't understand how you end mass incarceration by voting for it.

Black people voting for the Clintons is not quite but almost comparable to if the Jews in large numbers had voted for Hitler.

Then on top of that there's the Clinton Welfare reform of the 1990s. Millions of black kids and kids of all races suffered at their hands because of that, yet the Clintons tout how much they have done for children. That's audacity!

Sometimes it's a good idea to be informed so that one doesn't end up hugging it out with the very people who are doing them in. That should be embarrassing, one would think, but apparently not. I can only guess that black leaders are not informing people as they should. It's not my business, (as a white woman) all I can do is shake my head. But I see posts like this here on DU and online and reports on tv, and I think WTF. This is probably the best example there has ever been, of cognitive dissonance.

Btw, Bernie didn't do a couple of protest actions in the 1960s and that was it. He kept fighting ever since then for the issues he believes in, civil rights being among them. Unlike the Clintons, he has been consistent through his entire career. I, personally, started watching him leading the fight for these things in the early 1990s on C-SPAN, and have watched him do it ever since.

The Clintons "work" for black people? That is a sick joke.

nice try once again olddots Feb 2016 #1
??? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #21
I know ... right? NurseJackie Feb 2016 #82
So, summarizing: If you're white, no diff between working in civil rights or being in the KKK Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #2
Yo got that message too huh ... TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #12
Really and Hillary did what? onecaliberal Feb 2016 #3
This OP is not about Hillary. But you are free to start your own threads to discuss whatever you EffieBlack Feb 2016 #6
I can comment on whatever I want! onecaliberal Feb 2016 #9
This OP is not about Hillary but if you want to bring Hillary up you are free to do so Autumn Feb 2016 #22
You cannot ask any questions about Bernie ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #35
support for Hillary isn't based on them thinking she is some great civil rights leader JI7 Feb 2016 #13
Then what is the basis of their support? ultragreen Feb 2016 #30
she gets involved in their communities, long term reltionships JI7 Feb 2016 #33
She must use her invisibility powers, because I've never seen it. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #53
many of those supporting have JI7 Feb 2016 #62
Like putting them in jail at 10 times the rate of whites for using MJ? eridani Feb 2016 #78
Thank you for a very thoughtful post Effie! Lucinda Feb 2016 #4
Unbelievable. azmom Feb 2016 #5
Makes sense MaggieD Feb 2016 #7
Bernie fought and voted against the Clinton's disastrous welfare reform bill gyroscope Feb 2016 #47
AA does not equal welfare MaggieD Feb 2016 #48
James Clyburn voted against the Welfare Reform Bill gyroscope Feb 2016 #51
no, the black community was NOT united in opposition to the welfare reform bill JI7 Feb 2016 #64
Yes they were gyroscope Feb 2016 #68
you are right, i was thinking of the crime bill JI7 Feb 2016 #72
Isn't it interesting that they keep bringing up welfare and crime as if these are the only issues EffieBlack Feb 2016 #52
Seems tone deaf to me MaggieD Feb 2016 #58
Yep. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #74
Right on, MaggieD! the zound of zilence Feb 2016 #73
This. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #8
it's not bernie who is saying he deserves votes based on it JI7 Feb 2016 #15
Exactly Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #17
I agree that he hadn't been saying it until recently, but in the last week he's been injecting EffieBlack Feb 2016 #19
i think it's just a last minute thing to try to get support in South Carolina JI7 Feb 2016 #31
Sanders tacked his involvement with MLK and the march onto his 'poverty' press riversedge Feb 2016 #70
So it sounds like cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #18
There's absolutely nothing wrong with talking about his record. But setting out there over and over EffieBlack Feb 2016 #25
My take is this: he raised it to show that his economic justice ideas aren't just about our economy, JudyM Feb 2016 #41
But telling us about his sensitivity and then answering questions about racial justice in such EffieBlack Feb 2016 #49
I respect your opinion Arazi Feb 2016 #54
You must have missed where I said I am not speaking for all black people EffieBlack Feb 2016 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #75
Actually Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #67
Well said. DCBob Feb 2016 #10
There is also a world of difference between... LexVegas Feb 2016 #11
Wasn't Emmett Till from Chicago? And wasn't he unafraid to be more free in Mississippi BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #46
Hey Effie Autumn Feb 2016 #14
Effie ruggerson Feb 2016 #16
Thanks EffieBlack for contributing your thoughts to the issue. oasis Feb 2016 #20
K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #23
Joe Lieberman went down to Mississippi during Freedom Summer. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #24
Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner . . . EffieBlack Feb 2016 #26
Bernie doesn't go around bragging. That's idiotic WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #27
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I can appreciate and it is nice to see Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #28
Excellent post. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #29
This photo moves me to tears sheshe2 Feb 2016 #32
It is a powerful photo, isn't it? EffieBlack Feb 2016 #36
K&R sheshe2 Feb 2016 #34
Not that I think you care but I don't know if you've seen this pic of Bernie that was taken before jillan Feb 2016 #37
Yes, I've seen this photo. I'm not sure what your point is. EffieBlack Feb 2016 #39
My point is this - jillan Feb 2016 #43
I don't think that's why he did it. I'm sure he did it for all of the right reasons EffieBlack Feb 2016 #50
Effie - when has he ever asked for anyone to be grateful for what he did? jillan Feb 2016 #59
No, he has not said that, but he presents it that way EffieBlack Feb 2016 #65
You're right in that Bernie could do the sit-in at the University of Chicago politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #38
most Bernie supporters I come into contact with think everyone amborin Feb 2016 #40
Your post highlights some of the problems that many black voters have with Sanders supporters EffieBlack Feb 2016 #45
On the contrary, I am interested. What are your views? amborin Feb 2016 #55
Glen Ford doesn't agree with you ultragreen Feb 2016 #42
He must have missed the secret Black People Meeting where we came up with our talking points EffieBlack Feb 2016 #57
What makes Clinton a better candidate for the Black community? Or is John Lewis running? vaberella Feb 2016 #44
.^that 840high Feb 2016 #60
Bernie has not typically bragged on it...It's only come up in the Presidential race.... Armstead Feb 2016 #56
"Bernie's work in the civil rights movement" Yeah that doesn't need to be impressive, but it is. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #63
So the Clinton Crime Bill creating mass incarceration and Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #66
Thanks for the valuable insight. Mufaddal Feb 2016 #69
I just think some are just struck with the Janet Jackson syndrome. NWCorona Feb 2016 #71
BLM was asking Hillary to "brag" about her super predator comment, yesterday WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #76
They prefer the candidate who called black youth "superpredators" ? n/t eridani Feb 2016 #77
Most black voters prefer Hillary Clinton EffieBlack Feb 2016 #80
Great. If she geets elected, look forward to even more POC in prison fo drug possession eridani Feb 2016 #81
FYI, Bernie has never "bragged" about his work in the civil rights movement. Vinca Feb 2016 #79
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