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2016 Postmortem

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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:12 AM Feb 2016

Sneering at "free stuff" is a vicious Repuke attack on the very idea of public goods. [View all]

There should not be such a thing as public education. If you grow up in a house with a library and your parents can afford tutors, then you get an education. Otherwise not. If you want retired people with no kids at home to pay for school bonds, you are just shilling for "free stuff" College tuition used to be free. If you want it to be so again, you are just a parasite shilling for "free stuff"

I like my Marxist fire department quite a bit. It is paid for by the government stealing a lot of money from people who have never had fires. The more your property is worth, the more property taxes you have to pay. That would be "From each according to his abilities." But they don't send a truck out unless you have a fire. That would be "to each according to his need."

Every single industrialized country in the world treats health care as a public good, with lots of different ways of paying the bills. Here it's like an iPod. If you have money or good insurance you get it. Otherwise you can fuck off and die, which is nothing but what parasites deserve.

And then there's all that physical infrastructure--roads, airports, dams. Be grateful for our interstate highway system. Ike paid for it with a 90% top marginal tax rate, so if we ever had to replace it, we couldn't. If you don't have a car, why should you pay?

It is the nature of public goods that
1. Everyone pays, regardless of usage.
2. They are usually free at the point of service.

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Bernie's campaign was not ever about free stuff, but always about corruption. Those sneering at Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #1
I know. But I wish he and other Dems would talk more about public goods. eridani Feb 2016 #37
I hear you, he talks primarily about what blocks our efforts. A constant uphill battle Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #42
I think we all know by now that the Clinton wing of the party Doctor_J Feb 2016 #2
They are essentially pro-choice Republicans. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2016 #32
And barely that Hydra Feb 2016 #35
It's bizarro world when you're attacked with repug words. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #3
The Repub policies are even more worriisome. n/t eridani Feb 2016 #5
It's weird that it's "free stuff" when the money goes to the general public winter is coming Feb 2016 #4
^^^This^^^ -none Feb 2016 #6
Good point! AllyCat Feb 2016 #9
+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #12
Fantastic! Great expose of corporate propaganda. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #24
Free stuff for corporations KansDem Feb 2016 #25
Exactly Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #30
If your house catches fire, a capitalist wouldn't care, if it ignites his, he does. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #7
Excellent arguement and NOT boriing. maddiemom Feb 2016 #10
"I'm less able to tell you ..." CrispyQ Feb 2016 #20
IMO wherever market incentives don't work private enterprise/free markets shouldn't HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #34
I had a conservative tell me today that taxes pay for roads and schools and that is not AllyCat Feb 2016 #8
I don't know about youse guys.... griloco Feb 2016 #11
Thanks Mexico! TheUndecider Feb 2016 #29
The folks with jobs pay taxes to educate kids that will become folks with jobs bigbrother05 Feb 2016 #13
Yet we have some UglyGreed Feb 2016 #14
Not one word when the free stuff was going to the 1% jillan Feb 2016 #15
Privatize profit, socialize losses. The 1% anthem. kairos12 Feb 2016 #16
And yet they manage to call it capitalism without laughing out loud. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2016 #19
It's a successful Big Lie. DirkGently Feb 2016 #17
We don't teach civics in school anymore so the concept of The Commons is being lost. CrispyQ Feb 2016 #18
The free stuff meme just bugs the heck out of me. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #21
It makes me loathe Clinton even more than I already did that she inspires CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #22
It's interesting how they understand the "spread the risk" and "spread the benefit" concepts TBF Feb 2016 #23
It isn't just the GOPers. It's some of the Clinton supporters, too, right here The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #26
And the trillions we've spent slaughtering and maiming tens and tens of thousands of Iraqis? Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #31
Thank you. The contempt some here have toward educating our young people is appalling. myrna minx Feb 2016 #40
...And is a distraction for the big-ass freebies wingers love handing out. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #27
Recommended and very well said. eom guillaumeb Feb 2016 #28
Well, not really ALago1 Feb 2016 #33
The parasites are the rich who confiscate everyone else's labor. eridani Feb 2016 #39
There is so much wrong with this post... white_wolf Mar 2016 #44
We the People of the United States SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #36
Free stuff indeed coyote Feb 2016 #38
+1. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #41
Excellent graphic==thx for aharing n/t eridani Mar 2016 #43
K&R nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #45
People sneering about 'Free stuff' Kentonio Mar 2016 #46
Public goods are socialist, period. n/t eridani Mar 2016 #47
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