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HereSince1628

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7. If your house catches fire, a capitalist wouldn't care, if it ignites his, he does.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:18 AM
Feb 2016

That protection of private investment promotes shared/public interest.

You might think everyone would want to live in a safely built and well maintained homes that wouldn't catch fire. But not everyone can afford to and not every landowner would consider it a profitable investment to make investments to protect against fires. So, we have to erect laws and enforce those laws to collectively protect private assets.

Consequently, fire-fighting goes way deeper into public interest than fire-trucks and fire-fighters. It's about zoning, and building codes, and building inspection and maintenance, it's about planning, distributing fire-hydrants and parking regulations, snow removal from streets, etc.

Boring, over long argument, right? You wanted to keep it on socialist fire-fighting, etc. But you see, that really is tone of the issue. How far will individual awareness and concern be allowed to be stretched? Lots of people can't see the good of all that regulatory stuff that interferes with their freedoms. Large numbers of people really place the boundaries of their concern about providing for the welfare of their neighbors' lives/property and even opportunity in different places.

Public enterprises, whatever they are, are all subject to the balance of where those boundaries are placed. I can without hesitation say that centralized government control of all productivity is a bad thing. Likewise I can without hesitation say that private ownership of all productivity is a bad thing. I'm less able to tell you where the optimum placement of the limits of social and capital control should be.


Bernie's campaign was not ever about free stuff, but always about corruption. Those sneering at Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #1
I know. But I wish he and other Dems would talk more about public goods. eridani Feb 2016 #37
I hear you, he talks primarily about what blocks our efforts. A constant uphill battle Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #42
I think we all know by now that the Clinton wing of the party Doctor_J Feb 2016 #2
They are essentially pro-choice Republicans. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2016 #32
And barely that Hydra Feb 2016 #35
It's bizarro world when you're attacked with repug words. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #3
The Repub policies are even more worriisome. n/t eridani Feb 2016 #5
It's weird that it's "free stuff" when the money goes to the general public winter is coming Feb 2016 #4
^^^This^^^ -none Feb 2016 #6
Good point! AllyCat Feb 2016 #9
+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #12
Fantastic! Great expose of corporate propaganda. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #24
Free stuff for corporations KansDem Feb 2016 #25
Exactly Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #30
If your house catches fire, a capitalist wouldn't care, if it ignites his, he does. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #7
Excellent arguement and NOT boriing. maddiemom Feb 2016 #10
"I'm less able to tell you ..." CrispyQ Feb 2016 #20
IMO wherever market incentives don't work private enterprise/free markets shouldn't HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #34
I had a conservative tell me today that taxes pay for roads and schools and that is not AllyCat Feb 2016 #8
I don't know about youse guys.... griloco Feb 2016 #11
Thanks Mexico! TheUndecider Feb 2016 #29
The folks with jobs pay taxes to educate kids that will become folks with jobs bigbrother05 Feb 2016 #13
Yet we have some UglyGreed Feb 2016 #14
Not one word when the free stuff was going to the 1% jillan Feb 2016 #15
Privatize profit, socialize losses. The 1% anthem. kairos12 Feb 2016 #16
And yet they manage to call it capitalism without laughing out loud. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2016 #19
It's a successful Big Lie. DirkGently Feb 2016 #17
We don't teach civics in school anymore so the concept of The Commons is being lost. CrispyQ Feb 2016 #18
The free stuff meme just bugs the heck out of me. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #21
It makes me loathe Clinton even more than I already did that she inspires CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #22
It's interesting how they understand the "spread the risk" and "spread the benefit" concepts TBF Feb 2016 #23
It isn't just the GOPers. It's some of the Clinton supporters, too, right here The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #26
And the trillions we've spent slaughtering and maiming tens and tens of thousands of Iraqis? Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #31
Thank you. The contempt some here have toward educating our young people is appalling. myrna minx Feb 2016 #40
...And is a distraction for the big-ass freebies wingers love handing out. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #27
Recommended and very well said. eom guillaumeb Feb 2016 #28
Well, not really ALago1 Feb 2016 #33
The parasites are the rich who confiscate everyone else's labor. eridani Feb 2016 #39
There is so much wrong with this post... white_wolf Mar 2016 #44
We the People of the United States SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #36
Free stuff indeed coyote Feb 2016 #38
+1. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #41
Excellent graphic==thx for aharing n/t eridani Mar 2016 #43
K&R nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #45
People sneering about 'Free stuff' Kentonio Mar 2016 #46
Public goods are socialist, period. n/t eridani Mar 2016 #47
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