2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Campaigns vs Movements [View all]H2O Man
(73,330 posts)You are -- as you know, though not everyone here might -- one of the Hillary supporters whom I have the utmost respect for. Thus, in response to this post of your's -- like virtually any -- I have the option of focusing on those areas where we agree, or disagree. But, because you remind me of my two brothers, it's always more fun to debate those differences ......I think that with my brothers, from childhood to old age, arguing is the closest we come to displaying affection (being primarily Irish, you know).
If a person is located inside of a picture frame, my good friend Rubin often said, they cannot, by definition, have an objective viewpoint. Hence, I was able to say, with all humility but utmost certainty, that the Hillary supporters would disagree. And, as your post shows, it cannot be otherwise. This does not make their opinions less important, or less valuable. It merely defines the different potentials.
I am unaware of a single Bernie supporter who believes that what Sanders and Clinton stand for are so similar, that there is no daylight between them. Yet, I respect that you are sincere in believing this. But the only way I could make that case would be if I turned back the clock a few decades, and placed myself back in a law class at the university, where for an exercise, we had to argue that: black and white are opposites; black and white are exactly the same; and there is absolutely no relationship between black and white ......with the goal of having each of our three positions be equally strong.
However, for sake of conversation, if Hillary and Bernie are so similar, the Congress that you believe awaits Hillary must be equally there for President Sanders.