2016 Postmortem

pottedplant

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31. Beware of strengthening!

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:31 PM

Feb 2016

Bill and Chelsea have advocated for Simpson-Bowles. It will raise the retirement age and cut social security benefits. Erskine bowles was part of bill's administration. Chelsea and stephanolous were judges in some lame "the can kicks back" youth brainwashing effort a couple years back. Someone needs to get Hillary on the record saying she opposes Simpson Bowles. Several supposedly progressive democrats are using this as their way of "strengthening " social security.

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Hilary Clinton - Third Way - Social Security - Buyer's Remorse [View all] FreakinDJ Feb 2016 OP

I have no doubt that she will start to dismantle social programs. That's what the Third Way is for. djean111 Feb 2016 #1

Driven by Wall St Investment Firms to dismantle Social Security FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #2

HIllary's "buddies' Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #46

"Third Way..." Translation: here come the insults. No explanation necessary. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #3

So Hilary supporters are in favor of Privatizing Social Security FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #5

Please quote where I said that. Otherwise, apologize. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #6

Answewr the question "Privatize Social Security - YES or NO" FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #7

I'll answer nothing until you either provide the quote or admit ... Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #8

Then argue the merits of the post before you attempt to dismiss it FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #12

No. You started this tempest in a teapot by intentionally misquoting me. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #13

Your post implied defense of Third Way notadmblnd Feb 2016 #34

Wrong. But don't let that stop you... Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #35

Then explain yourself notadmblnd Feb 2016 #42

Yes and how will they pay for a Hillary War? Confiscate the deposits of the 60% - 95% DhhD Feb 2016 #52

please answer the question YES or NO yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #39

LOL! Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #41

If only "Third Way" was merely an "Insult" 2banon Feb 2016 #17

Yes, if only... Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #19

Excuse me? with over 34, 000 posts here on DU you're just hearing about "Third Way" 2banon Feb 2016 #22

LOL! More conjured outrage. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #23

I see 2banon Feb 2016 #28

I doubt it. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #29

You are the one that came here outraged notadmblnd Feb 2016 #43

One of those "Inconvenient Truths" FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #32

More than an Insult - it's an assault Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #47

That picture made me shoot coffee out my nose FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #65

No explanation? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #91

The last sentence. Of course it does! bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #4

this is surely one of the key reasons why Wall St. gleefully supports her amborin Feb 2016 #9

Third Way has been Hilary's Attack Dogs constantly attacking Bernie and Warren FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #10

This is the "experience" they'd have us "fall in line" for. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #11

Hillary's foreign policy bonafides only prove she would be GWB II, on steroids. peacebird Feb 2016 #79

Social Security needs some tweaking, both candidates are for that - likely increasing cap and Hoyt Feb 2016 #14

Confusing because Hillary advocates Not Raising Taxes - Social Security Cap FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #15

Actually Clinton is supporting raising cap, expanding benefits for poor and those who raisedchildren Hoyt Feb 2016 #18

That is EXACTLY to means 3rd Way advocates as the first step to dismantle Social Security FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #25

Who cares what the 3rd Way wants, Clinton does not support it. So there. Hoyt Feb 2016 #26

You have to deny a Lot of Reality to make that statement FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #30

Heck, I'm for taking money from any source to beat the GOPers. Doesn't mean everyone who contributed Hoyt Feb 2016 #40

Beware of strengthening! pottedplant Feb 2016 #31

Good points and welcome to DU! Arazi Feb 2016 #36

Do you have a link. Simpson-Bowles did call for increasing benefits for poor and raising cap. Hoyt Feb 2016 #37

simpson Bowles/Peterson and SS cuts pottedplant Feb 2016 #55

Well if you can't copy a link, just tell us what website says Clinton support Simpson-Bowles. Hoyt Feb 2016 #58

Hope this helps pottedplant Feb 2016 #64

That says absolutely nothing about Clinton supporting Simpson-Bowles. Hoyt Feb 2016 #68

Trying this again pottedplant Feb 2016 #69

There you go again, here is what that link says -- Hoyt Feb 2016 #70

Ok pottedplant Feb 2016 #72

Clinton doesn't say that anywhere. I get it's important to Altman to push that belief, even if Hoyt Feb 2016 #73

Yes there is pottedplant Feb 2016 #80

She specifically says she's against it, and her history supports that. Hoyt Feb 2016 #82

She's against Simpson Bowles??? pottedplant Feb 2016 #83

You realise that is former Clinton White House chief of staff Erksine Bowles FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #84

That is probably where increasing cap and payments for people on lower end came from. Hoyt Feb 2016 #86

WOW - now your really reaching into the Alternate Reality Universe FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #87

Simpson-Bowles was an attempt to come up with some workable solution between GOPers and Dems. Hoyt Feb 2016 #88

This is from the first link I submitted which you obviously didn't read pottedplant Feb 2016 #89

You do get that this was not a Bowles proposal or Simpson proposal. it was an attempt to come up Hoyt Feb 2016 #90

#whichHillary Loudestlib Feb 2016 #54

Maybe you can copy a link that says Clinton supports Simpson-Bowles, privatization, and similar crud Hoyt Feb 2016 #59

Pete Peterson runs an outfit called "Fix the Debt" DirkGently Feb 2016 #16

Pete Peterson was involved in the Nixon administration and now runs 3rd Way FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #21

Well there you have it. And yet it isn't discussed, at all, DirkGently Feb 2016 #24

"compromising" with Republicans on "entitlement reform" goes all the way back to the Reagan years FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #27

Some of our fellow Dems are "mind conservatives." DirkGently Feb 2016 #33

thanks - my point exactly FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #38

Their thinking is fucked up , and just doesn't mesh with reality. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #48

And Third Way proudly advises that nest of DINOs - the New Democrat Coalition. djean111 Feb 2016 #49

Hence all of Hillary's Gleaming Endorsements FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #50

Yup! You got it in one! n/t djean111 Feb 2016 #51

she is a tool of wall street. What do expect? bbgrunt Feb 2016 #20

KICKING FOR THE TRUTH!!! Faux pas Feb 2016 #44

A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to privatize Social Security along with the rest of the baggage DhhD Feb 2016 #45

people need to hear this far and wide; anyone who depends on Soc Sec should be scared of a amborin Feb 2016 #53

the internet can say whatever facts it wants: SEIU will print 20 million fliers MisterP Feb 2016 #56

SEIU State Employees in many States don't participate in Social Security FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #57

It is strange to hear Third Way does not want to strengthen SS when it is their positon of Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #60

Don't know where you got your "Facts" FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #62

From Third Way site, I have provided this info before. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #74

I see Denial is a river in Egypt FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #76

Means testing would be a total, unmitigated disaster pottedplant Feb 2016 #67

Where did I say chsined cpi? Do you think Donald Trump needs SS? Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #77

Since you are making 3rd way's case pottedplant Feb 2016 #81

Means testing is a path to disaster for Social Security FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #78

It's NOT an insurance program. SS is an entitlement. Avalux Mar 2016 #93

What the fuck is this means testing bullshit?? Avalux Feb 2016 #92

Hmmm, they want us to vote for her in the GE. What did jwirr Feb 2016 #61

Great info. K&R nt Duval Feb 2016 #63

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. erlewyne Feb 2016 #66

Dems dismissive and even downright defensive of Third-Way. OZi Feb 2016 #71

Most of Third Way are former Republican Lobbiest FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #75

So it's ok for Bernie to be for raising the cap, but not Hillary? nt Jitter65 Feb 2016 #85