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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
60. Our dislike of Gore changed to love
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

because HE changed. If Gore version 2003 had run in 2000, he would have won hands down.

I get it, you're a "pragmatist". However, you seem to have rejected "pragmatic" arguments back in 2008, but not today. Curious.

Since you asked... kracer20 Mar 2016 #1
Bernie and Hillary both believe in small d democratic values and the rule of law. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #2
I'm sorry - what does Hillary believe in? Seriously. NowSam Mar 2016 #10
When has she shown an antipathy to the rule of law and small d democratic values? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #19
She has contempt for the truth NowSam Mar 2016 #22
Motion to strike as non responsive DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #26
She is against liberty and individual freedoms and the right to privacy to name three values WDIM Mar 2016 #61
I support marijuana legalization DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #65
Well obviously prohibition it is an abuse of the rule of law. WDIM Mar 2016 #71
Now that it is pretty clear she is gonna be the nominee, what say you? Gonna continue to attack randys1 Mar 2016 #78
Not clear to me that she will be nominee. NowSam Mar 2016 #81
That's not what I asked. n/t Yavin4 Mar 2016 #3
Wow. That's a whole lotta disconnect. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #6
Sanders and Clinto voted the same in the senate 93% of the time. yardwork Mar 2016 #32
You don't know how that works? 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #43
*this* 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #39
All those post office names mattered pdsimdars Mar 2016 #46
Trump is wealthier but Hillary is working on catching up. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #4
Both do tend to lie during debates. revbones Mar 2016 #5
I think the difference is mostly one of style, and of course Ron Green Mar 2016 #7
Nobody said that ever. But keep the dishonesty going. mmonk Mar 2016 #8
Really? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #9
I do not read responses in threads over generalities in campaigns. mmonk Mar 2016 #14
I read people respond to your prompting for response. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #15
No They aren't the same. Big differences eom Arazi Mar 2016 #11
Of course there's a difference - one is center right and one is far right authoritarian el_bryanto Mar 2016 #12
I think there's a vast difference. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13
Bigger difference between Sanders and the both of them. NowSam Mar 2016 #16
Many Social Issues they have actually agreed on SheenaR Mar 2016 #17
Lots of differences nichomachus Mar 2016 #18
Sounds like an argument DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #41
Wow, really puts some perspective on it. 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #48
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #53
Are you advocating for Donald Trump here? George II Mar 2016 #75
It's bizarro world when the one running on the repug side is to the left of hillary. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #76
Yes there's a difference. Trump is a bigot and an obvious huckster. Clinton is a smart Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #20
Great answer! n/t ozone_man Mar 2016 #36
her state would disagree PatrynXX Mar 2016 #40
...... Svafa Mar 2016 #70
Oh, there are differences, certainly, Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #21
Good response. 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #50
+100000 katsy Mar 2016 #82
I'm still working on how you can be so in the tank when in 08 you were so harshly critical of her... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #23
There are quite a few DUers who were rabidly anti-Hillary in 2008, conveniently supporting her now. arcane1 Mar 2016 #28
It's the extreme certainty of polar positions that I find to be stunning, also this crazed demand Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Mar 2016 #55
It's interesting, isn't it? Kall Mar 2016 #80
This aint '08. It's '16. Hillary is the best candidate out there, not Bernie. Yavin4 Mar 2016 #30
We all know what year this is Yavin4. My comments are not about Hillary, Obama or Bernie they are Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #38
I get it that Bernie supporters tend to be more emotional than most. Yavin4 Mar 2016 #47
You're losing this argument with Bluenorthwest (badly) . . . fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #56
Says who? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #59
He's making you look silly . . . fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #62
By bringing up posts from 8 years ago? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #63
Yeah, right . . . fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #66
That "emotional" claim was thrown at Obama supporters last time Armstead Mar 2016 #57
Our dislike of Gore changed to love Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #60
Bernie supporters are more emotional 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #64
Early 08- Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #44
Wow, digging up old posts about settled arguments from years ago. Yavin4 Mar 2016 #51
Hillary wants my vote without doing a damn thing to earn it besides not being republican. arcane1 Mar 2016 #45
Well, not for nothing Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #24
I'd prefer not to have to put that to the test tk2kewl Mar 2016 #25
You win this thread! fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #58
To their credit Trump had to pay them to be there. WDIM Mar 2016 #72
lol tk2kewl Mar 2016 #73
Trump is more likely to enact Universal Health Care nt Dems to Win Mar 2016 #27
I don't believe anyone thinks that and the question is nonsense. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #29
There's a difference, but the difference is small. Deadshot Mar 2016 #31
No, I'm smarter than that. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #33
Thing is we canot nail down Hillary's positions... so, who knows? yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #34
i can tell you this much elana i am Mar 2016 #37
The question is whether there IS a difference that MAKES a difference. hifiguy Mar 2016 #42
+1 BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #52
Nobody thinks that. Dem2 Mar 2016 #49
Of course not. Trump opposes the TPP. n/t. Shandris Mar 2016 #54
I think there's this much difference. gcomeau Mar 2016 #67
The depths some go to to score imaginary internet points. demmiblue Mar 2016 #68
They are very good friends and both extremely wealthy and detached from the realities of being poor WDIM Mar 2016 #69
the question i'm looking for is whether there's *enough* difference 0rganism Mar 2016 #74
Trump will get very much done SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #77
you are expecting too much.... WAAAYYYYYY too much! Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #79
No, there are certainly differences. Kall Mar 2016 #83
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