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Nope... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #1
Ok. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #2
LOL. Perfect! nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #103
good point malokvale pdsimdars Mar 2016 #110
Here's part of the American Values Project manifesto on Hortensis Mar 2016 #111
"progressivism" marions ghost Mar 2016 #124
This is PROGRESSIVEVALUES.ORG's definition, MG. Hortensis Mar 2016 #127
OK marions ghost Mar 2016 #129
I agree that in the 1990s the party crossed lines Hortensis Mar 2016 #133
So marions ghost Mar 2016 #141
Can't or won't? "Bernie or Bust" is obviously, Hortensis Mar 2016 #115
Nnnnnnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #3
Hey Janey, where's this Bernie or Bust campaign you speak of? is the the new meme for tomorrow? litlbilly Mar 2016 #4
Right here: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #7
One article unbelievably claims Bust stems from "organic integrity." Hortensis Mar 2016 #140
This message was self-deleted by its author Chichiri Mar 2016 #29
dont bother answering, youve been on my ignore list for a long time litlbilly Mar 2016 #5
How did you see this post? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #10
LOL Lucinda Mar 2016 #145
petition you say? where can I find this petition of which you speak? azurnoir Mar 2016 #6
Right here: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #8
but petition not there now I haz sad azurnoir Mar 2016 #12
So you're saying you never heard of it? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #14
no but not really paying attention either busy checking change.org petitions azurnoir Mar 2016 #16
The link I gave contains a link. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #18
ah links within links like a puzzle it is azurnoir Mar 2016 #61
"Like a circle in a spiral // Like a wheel within a wheel" -- Windmills of your mind JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #64
A riddle, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a sort of croissanwich type deal. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #77
circles within spirals are paradoxical azurnoir Mar 2016 #80
every time that wheel turn round Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #82
I first heard it in The Thomas Crowne Affair. Excellent soundtrack for an excellent movie. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #83
Is this all too complicated for you? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #70
yes yes complicated it is azurnoir Mar 2016 #76
Oh we have all heard of it. We have a secret conclave with regularity, where we exchange silvershadow Mar 2016 #104
hush you're not supposed to tell azurnoir Mar 2016 #142
I've given up trying to explain anything to you.... daleanime Mar 2016 #9
Never heard of you before. But thanks for stopping by. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #11
I once got a forunte cookie that said Gwhittey Mar 2016 #13
Ok so everyone is on board that this isnt an actual thing? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #15
What nobody's stepping up? ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #17
Yeah its weird. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #19
Not really. kristopher Mar 2016 #43
"an actual thing" Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #48
Or you could Google it and see what turns up! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #52
Google is now the determinant for the objective reality of stuff? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #55
"A big part of reality is 3rd party perspective." -- I'd very much like to think that was JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #56
IRONY: THE SHACKLES OF YOUTH Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #57
Weren't you really thinking "shackles of mind"? Hortensis Mar 2016 #112
No. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #118
Is that why you won't discuss "Bernie or Bust?" Hortensis Mar 2016 #119
Wait, what wont I discuss? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #120
It was the "Bernie or Bust" movement. Hortensis Mar 2016 #121
Well... I've been here for 12 years, already. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #143
Okay. Have a nice evening. Hortensis Mar 2016 #146
Where do you get your news? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #58
If you think your 'reasoning' corners Warrens in any way, you are sorely mistaken JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #60
Im referring to third party perspectives. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #65
Here, I actually thought maybe we could have an interesting discussion on metaphysics and semantics Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #66
I learned everything I needed to about the poster's intentions with this thread JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #68
And to boot, now I'm stuck in one of those annoying jury loops! Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #73
I'm in one of those too! Weird.... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #75
Paging Elad. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #78
saying that everything you can find on google is objectively real, isn't logic. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #63
I agree, which is why i never said that. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #67
Are you referring to these truths? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #71
So Im guessing youre Bernie or Bust? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #79
What a strange post, and a stranger assumption still! Never have I said such a thing in this thread. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #81
It was a question. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #86
This is GDP. It seemed apropos. For followup questions, please refer to post #71. Thanks. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #87
have you ever been to a caucus-race? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #88
Excellent, sir! JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #92
I don't like to toot my own horn (I'm not that flexible) but I am fairly well informed, as humans go Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #85
Just because it may "exist" somewhere, in someone's mind or thoughts, or even silvershadow Mar 2016 #105
My guess? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #20
"Charade of democracy". There is no charade, she's winning. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #21
No, I am not saying that. You are saying that, and I disagree JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #22
Again, based on no evidence. Just emotions and opinions. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #23
I never espoused those opinions, I was explaining them to you. You asked a question in your OP... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #26
No I think i said everything i needed to in my previous post. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #44
Ah, I get it. It's a "mentality". is a "mentality" an actual thing? It's a deeper question than one Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #50
Maybe the problem is that you assume other people engage in "groupthink" Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #24
So youre saying you will vote for the Dem nominee in Nov? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #25
Because they know that if they say Bernie or Bust they'll be banned from DU for a TOS violation. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #28
This has gone off topic. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #32
You make the mistake in assuming they see Hillary as representing them on the issues, whatsoever. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #35
Its absolutely not flawed because.... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #40
The question is one of perception, not whether you personally agree with that perception. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #42
Thats all im trying to do: understand it. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #45
Then you would be better off not arguing against the messenger who is simply relaying the ideas JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #49
Its an internet discussion board. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #51
You asked a question about what Bernie or Busters believed JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #54
Pick a fight? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #59
This post of yours is not discussion centered on the question at hand. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #62
Then why did we continue discussing it further after that? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #74
what's "an actual movement"? Someone writes a petition? A couple people say something on facebook? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #39
Alert on me again - my 840high Mar 2016 #30
Im sorry, what are you saying? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #33
I've said it like fifty fucking times, now, not that I need to, because that's what I always do. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #38
Huh? Is there a Hillary Or Bust Im not aware of? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #41
You brought up "groupthink". I'm telling you that it's rampant, but maybe not where you think it is. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #46
Clinton is a right-winger, a CONSERVATIVE, look at the issues hillarysong2016 Mar 2016 #27
LOL at the video choices. No thanks. But.... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #36
Thank you for bringing up the twin subjects of unemployment and incarceration side by side hillarysong2016 Mar 2016 #106
... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #107
Because not everyone sees politics as a team sport Armstead Mar 2016 #31
I endorse that sentiment in fact. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #34
I said progressive movement, not any political party's. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #37
No need. These 50,000 people have political freedom same as you or I do. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #47
So we shouldnt make an effort to reach out? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #53
Ah, see, now you're talking. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #69
The playbook that is nabbing more vote totals than any other candidate while... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #89
Yeah, who would think the inevitable and presumed front-runner might get more votes than the unknown Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #90
5 candidates = 5 GOTV campaigns. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #94
You wanted to focus on November, I thought. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #100
Having a more diverse electorate and higher vote totals doesn't mean your ideas are better. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #93
Please refer to post 89 for further questions. Thanks. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #96
Uh...that is the post I responded to, and refuted. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #97
Better ideas are in the eye of the beholder. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #98
If Bernie is not elected Gwhittey Mar 2016 #72
I could watch that over and over again. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #84
Tell Hillary she is wrong if she thinks we will unite just because she claims to be a Democrat. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #91
I would prefer just to let it be a surprise for them. They do not understand what JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #95
You are right. They really don't. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #99
Roughly, some people have persuaded themselves that Clinton is not progressive Recursion Mar 2016 #101
IMO, for most it's a protective hypocrisy adopted Hortensis Mar 2016 #117
Joining Bernie or Bust is not about tossing progressivism JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #126
Congratuations. An actual statement. Hortensis Mar 2016 #128
And you equate abandoning progressivism with not voting straight democratic ticket? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #136
Yes, your statement IS ludicrous, isn't it? Hortensis Mar 2016 #138
because retrowire Mar 2016 #102
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #108
Tangile concern for the issues . . . . . pdsimdars Mar 2016 #109
What America needs is four parties. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #113
Clinton embodies everything that is wrong with our party. No, she can not unite us with her RiverLover Mar 2016 #114
well - I cannot think of a more effective project to help ANY RWer move their campaigns forward DrDan Mar 2016 #116
What I see is a lot of Clinton supporters Bettie Mar 2016 #122
Not this time. I am done voting for the lesser of two evils. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #125
My kids are still young Bettie Mar 2016 #132
Thats your right and I respect that. Given the Choice between a Madman and a Corporate Operative Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #135
I respect your opinion too Bettie Mar 2016 #137
Agree, we must try to do what we think is best. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #139
Not sure about this organization or petition whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #123
But how is that progressive? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #131
Sorry whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #134
Why bother your pretty little head about it? Avalux Mar 2016 #130
The Democratic Party's reaction to McGovern loss. ieoeja Mar 2016 #144
Easily, we feel Hillary is not a Progressive. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #147
Interesting question. H2O Man Mar 2016 #148
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