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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: White Lives Electorally Matter!!! [View all]JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)40. The Warmth Of Other Suns
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003EY7JGM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1
The tail end - the very tail - were educated (collegiate level) blacks in the late 60's and 70's who could have given two shits about a Union Job. They were the "shit just got real" moment for those Northern Cities. They are the people (including my family) who had money to overcome the Red Line and invade comfy cozy white suburbs.
You need to read the book - then come back to this point.
Some things to consider -
The start point was 1915. With so many white men at war and restrictions on immigration the labor was needed in industrial cities.
Look to Red Summer - 1919. Competition for housing and jobs and blacks being used as strike breakers added to that. I don't blame those black men - they had to get ahead - and unions tended to shut them out. That went on until the I Am A Man campaign in 1968. They did the right thing for their families. Makes you wonder if white blue collar workers did not benefit the most from mass incarceration - less competition - right?
Anyways - aside from a need for labor by white industrialists - that they could get cheaper than white men (still goes on today - white men make more) the book will also inform you on the economic restrictions and social limitations on black people (we wouldn't be real Americans until 1964/65) in the South. Examples: Inability to votes, inequality in education, oppressive whites only laws, black professions (agriculture, porters, home care, home cleaners) being locked out of Social Security. If you worked in a factory you got it. If you sharecropped or worked as a maid - you paid taxes but didn't get the benefit down the road.
You should check out the book. Stay awoke!
The tail end - the very tail - were educated (collegiate level) blacks in the late 60's and 70's who could have given two shits about a Union Job. They were the "shit just got real" moment for those Northern Cities. They are the people (including my family) who had money to overcome the Red Line and invade comfy cozy white suburbs.
You need to read the book - then come back to this point.
Some things to consider -
The start point was 1915. With so many white men at war and restrictions on immigration the labor was needed in industrial cities.
Look to Red Summer - 1919. Competition for housing and jobs and blacks being used as strike breakers added to that. I don't blame those black men - they had to get ahead - and unions tended to shut them out. That went on until the I Am A Man campaign in 1968. They did the right thing for their families. Makes you wonder if white blue collar workers did not benefit the most from mass incarceration - less competition - right?
Anyways - aside from a need for labor by white industrialists - that they could get cheaper than white men (still goes on today - white men make more) the book will also inform you on the economic restrictions and social limitations on black people (we wouldn't be real Americans until 1964/65) in the South. Examples: Inability to votes, inequality in education, oppressive whites only laws, black professions (agriculture, porters, home care, home cleaners) being locked out of Social Security. If you worked in a factory you got it. If you sharecropped or worked as a maid - you paid taxes but didn't get the benefit down the road.
You should check out the book. Stay awoke!
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You did not read it. There is plenty of nostalgia for the old DU and some of it fantasy
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#14
Bernie won the Latino vote hugely in Colorado; he won 41% non-white vote in Mass
amborin
Mar 2016
#2
The title certainly spells more trouible than the insightful argument. eom
Betty Karlson
Mar 2016
#32
This post is fascinating. Thank.you. In some way it clears up the puzzle of why
ALBliberal
Mar 2016
#9
I have not studied what happened in Oklahoma but I think the sense of betrayal
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#53
My point of making this post is mainly to remind people of stark reality.
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#22
One of Sanders big tactical mistakes was to focus on issues of economic insecurity and expect
YCHDT
Mar 2016
#38
Your point is important and has often been made here on DU as if late.
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#52
White voters, as a percentage of the electorate, has declined, and will continue to decline.
Adrahil
Mar 2016
#48
Tough subject, but needed to be said. Disagree that Trump is the nominee though. Here's why...
EndElectoral
Mar 2016
#69
No, that's not what I am doing. My title is to get attention of something we have been ignoring.
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#82
I am sorry but I err on the side of free speech over avoiding rankling feathers.
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#98
It seemed like you wanted me to change the title but I am telling you I disagree.
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#101
I do not believe your misdirections and deceptions thus we cannot have a real conversation.
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#99
So, whites won't vote for Hillary, but POC will line up to vote for Bernie in the GE?
grossproffit
Mar 2016
#75
Reframing but mistating what I said may seem like effective argumentation but it isn't really..
Bread and Circus
Mar 2016
#83
It's crucial, when you have a point you care about, to articulate it in the most offensive
Recursion
Mar 2016
#108