2016 Postmortem

tularetom

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62. Lots of former Democratic presidents had "consensual affairs"

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:42 PM

Mar 2016

Particularly those who got the most things done like Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson. And they were smart enough to keep a lid on it.

Maybe if Obama and Carter would have had something going on, they could have accomplished more.

But Bill Clinton was the only one stupid enough to get caught repeatedly and have it blow up in his face. Monica Lewinsky wasn't the only one ya know.

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I PROUDLY STAND WITH BULLHORN BILL [View all] JaneyVee Mar 2016 OP

I am not surprised. TM99 Mar 2016 #1

Yeah...no surprise here. haikugal Mar 2016 #2

apparently ethics and laws are situational to some. I was there roguevalley Mar 2016 #81

To too many of them haikugal Mar 2016 #83

They stood with her and defended her when she ran a race-baiting campaign in 2008. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #88

I suspect that guy with the bullhorn was trying to distract people.... bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #3

She doesn't care TM99 Mar 2016 #4

The exit polls were changed just after 8pm...that's what I read....recently like today. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #6

Oh good greif - is that all you have to complain about? CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #71

Or if you didn't get to vote for Bernie because they blocked the ADA access for Bill Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #85

Whoa, let's back up here CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #91

So you didn't read it, and you're laughing at a law Kittycat Mar 2016 #92

Now, now - don't get your blood pressure up CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #107

"Traffic jams" are illegal where he caused them... dchill Mar 2016 #93

LOL! CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #98

I know (snort) it's just federal election (chuckle) law (giggle)... dchill Mar 2016 #108

Then why don't you file a complaint with the Federal Election Commission CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #110

I didn't have to. dchill Mar 2016 #122

Then I guess it isn't any of our business then. CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #124

Ooh! Double then, then. dchill Mar 2016 #125

Glad to know you can make fun of the disabled Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #97

I'm not making fun of the disabled... CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #100

Sorry Omaha Steve, as much as it is a crass ignorant post it really is not making fun of the disable JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #109

Results of your Jury Service (I was Juror #6...) JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #106

Janey needs a nap..n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #5

So let us know which Dem prez you prefer. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #8

I wonder if Janey and MaggieD are best friends....seems so. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #10

We're both informed - so that's nice MaggieD Mar 2016 #20

Are you on twitter? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #26

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #42

I might be ;) MaggieD Mar 2016 #121

Not so much. JeaneRaye Mar 2016 #115

Well go ahead and cite the law he violated along with proof MaggieD Mar 2016 #118

Oh no you didn't! jillan Mar 2016 #105

:) Lucinda Mar 2016 #7

Hey girl! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #11

Alloo! Lucinda Mar 2016 #12

a note about that unemployment rate noamnety Mar 2016 #9

That trend started long before Clinton... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #13

Yes, it is 2016, and we don't need to settle for a moderate Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #14

Well, we aren't electing a socialist MaggieD Mar 2016 #21

Ahh.. red baiting. Nice. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #23

That's what he labels himself, remember? MaggieD Mar 2016 #27

Democratic Socialist. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #30

He's called himself a Socialist many times. Own it redstateblues Mar 2016 #56

pointing to opposition his European-model 'economic socialism' isn't 'red-baiting bigtree Mar 2016 #29

Then isn't referring to Hillary calling herself a moderate reality based politics? Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #32

most of that is framed to suit the same cynical politics the right employs against the Clintons bigtree Mar 2016 #53

And calling Bernie a "Socialist" isn't? Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #55

he fricking calls himself a socialist bigtree Mar 2016 #60

I didn't make up anything in my list and he is a DEMOCRATIC Socialist. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #61

I'm not responsible for explaining his made-up label bigtree Mar 2016 #74

You know... JeaneRaye Mar 2016 #119

Apparently its not swinging in that direction. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #22

So Obama has the pendulum swinging toward the right? Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #25

you will need to settle if the progressive choice overestimates the public's appetite bigtree Mar 2016 #24

. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #28

Meaningless BS - the GOP wants him nominated MaggieD Mar 2016 #33

So your opinion is more important than polling data? Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #36

Hard to win the general election when you can't get nominated CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #78

That's what's so pathetic. Marr Mar 2016 #128

I am hoping that enough people have access to google and can look up Socilaism Gore1FL Mar 2016 #89

this is without a finger lifted to oppose Sanders from republicans bigtree Mar 2016 #34

Oh please. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #38

you're doing yourself no good misrepresenting her support bigtree Mar 2016 #43

We are now past the southern states. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #49

California, Florida, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, and another seven Southern states bigtree Mar 2016 #70

I thought Bernie was supposed to drive turnout to historic levels redstateblues Mar 2016 #80

Those polls mean nothing - he can't even win the nomination CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #79

Exactly - stand aside MaggieD Mar 2016 #31

it's like his refusal to raise money for Dem candidates bigtree Mar 2016 #40

He never had any intention of honoring that agreement MaggieD Mar 2016 #44

Why? He's not electible? He can't even get the majority of the Democratic vote CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #75

Bullhorn Bill Pathetic noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #15

That's unfortunate. Lots of other people recognize that NO ONE is above the law...More than 90,000: AzDar Mar 2016 #16

Asleep at the wheel SheenaR Mar 2016 #17

K&R NCTraveler Mar 2016 #18

Damn straight MaggieD Mar 2016 #19

Sarcasm? Or are you serious? nt Logical Mar 2016 #35

She's serious; but that doesn't necessarily obligate the audience to take her seriously. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #135

It's nice for you to finally acknowledge that laws are only for the little people. jeff47 Mar 2016 #37

Heh. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #47

There is no law against a Dem rock star glad handing MaggieD Mar 2016 #51

Golly, it's too bad there's videos of him doing far more than that. jeff47 Mar 2016 #57

Link? MaggieD Mar 2016 #59

You already replied to several threads with the videos. jeff47 Mar 2016 #68

Oh, I do think he knows the laws. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #58

Oh yes there is marions ghost Mar 2016 #69

While we knocked ourselves out defending him from the consequences of his lack of self control tularetom Mar 2016 #39

the 'white trash drama' comes from those who insist on tongue-clucking over a consensual affair bigtree Mar 2016 #50

Lots of former Democratic presidents had "consensual affairs" tularetom Mar 2016 #62

no one really cares about the sex (no one with a life) bigtree Mar 2016 #77

The best part is that Bill's antics likely cost Hillary a few votes, if anything alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #41

MA Dems love Bill MaggieD Mar 2016 #48

You don't get it do ya? marions ghost Mar 2016 #72

Moral Relativism whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #45

So you're saying SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #46

Oh goodie. Then you will cheer when Trump creates curcus' at the polls in the general election me b zola Mar 2016 #52

K&R great white snark Mar 2016 #54

And after Bush v Gore, our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity was over.... Hekate Mar 2016 #63

Some of your "reality" is actually fantasy. Vattel Mar 2016 #64

Bullshit Bill, huh? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #65

Color me shocked. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #66

If 25 million is the amount of jobs he's created overseas since NAFTA and WTO d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #67

Bill Clinton was a good president, left to create the CGI to help those in need, Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #73

K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #76

They are just finding any excuse to discount Bill's influence R B Garr Mar 2016 #82

He was a damned good republican elmac Mar 2016 #84

Bahahahaha that's great, no sarcasm Gorgatron Mar 2016 #117

K&R BeatleBoot Mar 2016 #86

Bill Clinton didn't create jobs. The tech industry did. nt valerief Mar 2016 #87

Indeed it is 2016! cer7711 Mar 2016 #90

Bernie Sanders isn't Barack Obama, and he certainly is no FDR CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #94

3.2 Manufacturing jobs zentrum Mar 2016 #95

NAFTA *lost* jobs and the neoliberalism meant there was no safety net MisterP Mar 2016 #96

^+1^ zentrum Mar 2016 #126

Imagine being a white Jewish guy from the Bronx in the 60's. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #99

When did that become a qualification to be President? CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #123

Wow you own it. bravo then. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #101

Wait. I thought this was supposed to be sarcastic. Nyan Mar 2016 #102

Of course you do. jillan Mar 2016 #103

When Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party lose 2016, we can thank people like you. LS_Editor Mar 2016 #104

I don't believe Hillary will lose to Donald Trump.... CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #111

LOL - Hillary is not going to lose MaggieD Mar 2016 #112

Election laws Violations! JeaneRaye Mar 2016 #113

The country isn't center right anymore.. Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #114

2 Most liberal justices? That's some powerful stuff you on! basselope Mar 2016 #116

I have worked polls in three states. longship Mar 2016 #120

Clinton didn't "screw up", he knew exactly what he was doing Fumesucker Mar 2016 #129

Then he also knew that he was violating regulations. longship Mar 2016 #134

Me too. Great to see the Big Dog looking good and having fun! Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #127

you're standing in illegally in a protected zone of the highest silvershadow Mar 2016 #130

JaneyVee excused Clinton criminal activity. Check desmiller Mar 2016 #131

Cheating comes easy to some folks. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #132

Yeah, it's 2016... Contrary1 Mar 2016 #133

So you proudly stand with voter hindering and electioneering inside the polls? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #136