2016 Postmortem

revbones

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48. No, but remarks like that demonstrate a lack of various things

Reply to reACTIONary (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:08 PM

Mar 2016

Also, that number isn't the true unemployment or underemployment.

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Mr. Sanders peddles fiction on free trade [View all] reACTIONary Mar 2016 OP

People complain I use personal experience, but my experience in corporate America hollysmom Mar 2016 #1

The US manufactures more today than at any point in our history Recursion Mar 2016 #70

Then pay middle class wages for a 30 hour work week. kristopher Mar 2016 #84

I'm not sure what that means. Recursion Mar 2016 #86

Sure kristopher Mar 2016 #106

What a load of crap BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #2

Gosh, I don't know. H2O Man Mar 2016 #23

right?! dana_b Mar 2016 #29

The sad things is H2O Man Mar 2016 #30

Yea Gwhittey Mar 2016 #102

Except the analysis is that the popular opinion is wrong mythology Mar 2016 #38

Just because something's in the Washington Post doesn't make it true, either. /nt Marr Mar 2016 #79

WaPo also argues that NAFTA was good for Mexico. Wilms Mar 2016 #3

NAFTA was pretty terrible for Mexico in fact Spider Jerusalem Mar 2016 #57

You can't look at one industry to gauge the impact of trade. Many Mexican farmers have jobs Hoyt Mar 2016 #60

Some other stats, then: Spider Jerusalem Mar 2016 #64

Yet Mexico stands in lines to sign every trade deal they can. I bet Mexico Hoyt Mar 2016 #65

Are you aware that Mexico ranks poorly as a democracy? kristopher Mar 2016 #112

When Mexico wises up, it will be better to have economic activity to tax and jobs to require Hoyt Mar 2016 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Mar 2016 #76

What is wrong with "America First"? PyaarRevolution Mar 2016 #77

Nothing. A nation's first obligation is to its own citizens. n/t whathehell Mar 2016 #114

Complete fertilizer. n/t Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #4

Hilarious ... Trajan Mar 2016 #5

I grew up in a town decimated by NAFTA revbones Mar 2016 #7

So what? The United states is... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #12

I see you have a Buddha avatar. Nice compassionate attitude you have there. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #13

Free Market Buddha? kenfrequed Mar 2016 #41

Wow. revbones Mar 2016 #16

Yeah it arguably affects cities worse because when the economy is gone then Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #94

What is the matter with you? Punkingal Mar 2016 #18

I can't tell if you're a Hillary troll or a Republican troll BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #24

Hillary - but having an opinion... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #43

No, but remarks like that demonstrate a lack of various things revbones Mar 2016 #48

+1, same here. Marr Mar 2016 #81

Perfomance art. cyberswede Mar 2016 #33

Time to move to The Hive, huh? Sweet. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #36

My hometown was decimated by Nafta. I love my hometown. Fuck You. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #40

No unemployment is much much higher. TM99 Mar 2016 #59

And the reason we should believe this blog over BLS U6 is? nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #110

Wow, you might be on the wrong site. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #82

I grew up in a town decimated by... brace yourself... South Carolina! HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #47

So NAFTA is to blame for people not wanting pocket watches? Generic Brad Mar 2016 #69

I think I may have been unclear... HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #83

We make most of the heavy plant and machinery other countries use in their factories Recursion Mar 2016 #91

Which is why so many people left Youngstown for Houston Recursion Mar 2016 #67

Hell even Joe Scarborough Gwhittey Mar 2016 #6

So why isn't Hillary embracing her trade deals? Ino Mar 2016 #8

Politics, of course.... however.... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #15

Politics, yes, of course... Ino Mar 2016 #25

She's not lying... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #44

"regressive" I'm not sure you are correct in your understanding of that word revbones Mar 2016 #49

I'm not sure I understand. Ino Mar 2016 #56

How well did that argument work in MI? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #9

You mean the.... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #17

The millions of people who lost their jobs know the truth. You are going on my ignore list. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #20

Since we are now at an unemployment rate of 4.9% and since.... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #45

Tell that to the people who used to work at the 10 - 12 factories that used to exist nearby. Vinca Mar 2016 #10

What exactly does the North American Free Trade Agreement have to do . ... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #46

NAFTA was the birthplace of outsourcing. Vinca Mar 2016 #116

The problem is every time a factory closes people say "NAFTA". Even if it went to China Recursion Mar 2016 #68

If you look up "outsourcing" in the dictionary, it should say "NAFTA." Vinca Mar 2016 #117

That's one study's cherry picking opinion Jarqui Mar 2016 #11

“In reality, NAFTA did not cause the huge job losses feared by the critics,” beedle Mar 2016 #14

Complete bull shit. Fearless Mar 2016 #19

"economic transformation" is not a force of nature ibegurpard Mar 2016 #21

And SOME people still say cigarettes don't cause cancer. basselope Mar 2016 #22

Jeff Bezos must have shit his pants after last night's debate Scootaloo Mar 2016 #26

The USA did indeed lose 850K jobs to NAFTA. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #27

This is exactly the right response, thanks I hate liars Mar 2016 #28

Don't believe that's true, but it would be less than one percent of jobs if it were. Hoyt Mar 2016 #61

Nope, median inflation-adjusted wages are higher today than in 1993 Recursion Mar 2016 #71

Not surprising that you failed to point out that household/consumer debt has exponentially increased brentspeak Mar 2016 #107

It's not as bad as, say, Canada, but it's up from 1993 (but coming down) Recursion Mar 2016 #108

Sure - why don't you just post that to the people of MI, OH, IN, WI, Il, and dana_b Mar 2016 #31

The stuff one has to defend to support Clinton. libtodeath Mar 2016 #32

WaPo...LOL! HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #34

I wondered if anyone else noticed that... yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #53

At least you took an accurate user name. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #35

"NAFTA did not cause the huge job losses feared by the critics,” Uh huh. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #37

Been training replacement workers since the mid 80's Dem2 Mar 2016 #39

Personal experience is very meaningful. Similar things happened every where. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #42

Somewhere there must be a thorough analysis of the number of jobs shipped elsewhere Jitter65 Mar 2016 #115

You forgot this: 99Forever Mar 2016 #50

Really? You really have that name? Really? Really? On DU? REALLY???? valerief Mar 2016 #51

Congratulations! november3rd Mar 2016 #52

Thanks, Washington Post. Kall Mar 2016 #54

Carrier did not just move its plant from Indianapolis to Mexico! DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #55

It is moving there in an attempt to survive against cheaper/better products made elsewhere. It's sad Hoyt Mar 2016 #62

I'm well aware of your position on American manufacturing DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #63

People want high quality, inexpensive stuff. Carrier, Toyota, Samsung, etc., are proof of that. Hoyt Mar 2016 #66

Am I correct in assuming you're a Boomer? n/t DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #75

Free trade is not free. WDIM Mar 2016 #58

yup ibegurpard Mar 2016 #73

20th Anniversary of NAFTA Article Billsmile Mar 2016 #72

In the context of about 50 million net new jobs having been created since then Recursion Mar 2016 #78

What kind of jobs lost vs. what kind gained, do you know? polly7 Mar 2016 #85

Yes, factory jobs have been disappearing since WWII Recursion Mar 2016 #88

What types of better paying jobs are replacing them? polly7 Mar 2016 #92

Why were they disappearing in the 1950s? Recursion Mar 2016 #95

I'm asking you about now. polly7 Mar 2016 #96

All? Definitely not. Most are. Recursion Mar 2016 #98

Hard to believe anyone here supports outsourcing hundreds of thousands of polly7 Mar 2016 #100

The data are very clear: the last 20 years were much better than the 20 years before them Recursion Mar 2016 #74

My $17.50 tech support job cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #80

Bookmarking to read later. Thank you! Lucinda Mar 2016 #87

Sir, idk you or your story but... Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #89

I can not believe what I'm reading, malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #90

TPP is in the Democratic Party Platform for a reason. Anti-NAFTA spin is pushed hard by the RW ucrdem Mar 2016 #97

JFK had been president for two and a half years by then. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #103

Nope. Sept 26, 1960: "I'm not satisfied until every American enjoys full constitutional rights. ucrdem Mar 2016 #104

And then he left the Freedom Riders totally unprotected against the white mobs. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #105

Nope. Kennedy sent 400 federal marshals to protect the freedom riders. ucrdem Mar 2016 #109

It's in our party's platform Recursion Mar 2016 #99

As a resident of Dayton I second your statement!! Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #101

+10! Can't be said enough. Offshoring started so long before NAFTA that GM was RETURNING in '93: ucrdem Mar 2016 #93

Oh jeez, it's the Washington Post?! PyaarRevolution Mar 2016 #111

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