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2016 Postmortem

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H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
32. Very good.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

I usually am among the last people I know to identify one candidate in the Democratic primaries to endorse and campaign for. Up until that point, I try to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of each one. Then I try to identify two things: the person I like the most, and who I think would have the greatest chance of winning in November. As the process flows along, the field usually narrows, until I can select "my" candidate.

There have been a few exceptions. Obviously, in 1996 and 2012, we had a president running for re-election. The other exception was Rev. Jesse Jackson. Because his beliefs and positions were so close to my own -- though he is a bit more conservative than me -- there was no question of who I was campaigning for. His concept of the Rainbow Coalition is, for all intents and purposes, the general model of what our party's best potential is. Plus, his two runs came at a time when many Democrats in DC were attempting to blend our values with those of the republican establishment .....though this would become even a more toxic blend in recent times.

I also remember at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, when John Kerry picked a young man named Barack Obama to speak. I was extremely impressed, and I remember thinking that I hoped this kid would eventually run for president.

Electability [View all] H2O Man Mar 2016 OP
Much to consider about... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #1
Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #2
How does one separate human faults from candidate faults? Gregorian Mar 2016 #3
firewood for a few years later.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #4
You have a talent H2O Man Mar 2016 #10
Yes. Electabilty should be one factor when considering who to support. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #5
I heard mention of NY and MI being in play shawn703 Mar 2016 #7
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #12
Yep, I'm wondering what this year's will be like. malthaussen Mar 2016 #26
Very important. H2O Man Mar 2016 #11
this map scares me... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #15
Here's Cenk Uygur on that topic. longship Mar 2016 #6
kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #13
One look at the smiles on the faces of FOX and Freinds... GoldenThunder Mar 2016 #9
Seriously. H2O Man Mar 2016 #14
Here is the thing that brothers me about, "Electability!" mrdmk Mar 2016 #16
Right, but in a primary you want to vote for the best candidate *who can win* Recursion Mar 2016 #17
Where-in-lies the old proverb mrdmk Mar 2016 #18
Very true (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #19
That's very honest and unusual here. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #21
Indeed. fun n serious Mar 2016 #23
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author fun n serious Mar 2016 #20
Sanders "could be viewed by some as a dangerous threat. In my opinion." How so? ebayfool Mar 2016 #24
and that post went...gone, gone gone! Raster Mar 2016 #28
That has been H2O Man Mar 2016 #31
That is what happens when someone really has nothing TO DISCUSS... Raster Mar 2016 #35
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #38
I've had some of that, too. malthaussen Mar 2016 #44
No courage of convictions. Been seeing a lot of smarmy stuff posted lately, then deleted when ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #39
It's a difficult issue to discuss, I think, partly because lovemydog Mar 2016 #22
Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #32
I appreciate your thoughtful writings and replies. lovemydog Mar 2016 #46
I've seen a recent trend here and there... malthaussen Mar 2016 #25
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #33
Not only does it make sense, I think the same... malthaussen Mar 2016 #43
How is electibility not just a popularity contest? Sivart Mar 2016 #27
Well said. H2O Man Mar 2016 #34
Somebody is trying to make Hillary Clinton into something she isn't tularetom Mar 2016 #29
You've nailed it. H2O Man Mar 2016 #36
I truly believe that Hillary Clinton believes that she is due the Presidency... Raster Mar 2016 #37
Exactly that! TY ^^^^ Add to that the sordid Lewinsky crap, she really seems to think ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #40
HRC retained her regal composer when Bill couldn't keep it in his pants... Raster Mar 2016 #41
Yup, and the WH isn't a bauble to pay compensation for wrongs he done her. ebayfool Mar 2016 #42
Stipulating all that... malthaussen Mar 2016 #45
For contemplation.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #47
Get thee to the greatest page! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #48
But, what does it matter? It looks like she will be the nominee. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2016 #49
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